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Of course you can also ask yourself if the cutscene is really that important for the level, crucial to the story etc., or if maybe the introduction could be done by other means, a few centerprint text messages, for instance. Because the thing is, setting up cutscenes in Quake is huge pain in the ass, and probably a waste of time if it's not going to be a real cinematic event or anything substantial.
Negke: yes you're right but what entity should I use for multiple text messages ?
My goal is to link/sync plot text-messages with different frames of my map while the player is frozen.. so I hoped info_intermission be handy : ) why freeze the player? they'll stop to read the messages when they come up anyway :)
for multiple messages you just want several different trigger_relay ents with the same targetname but different 'delay' values on them, eg. one with 0, the next with 3, then 6, etc... Just have message scripts at key positions and the player will stop to read them, as rj said. You can even make centerprints with linebreaks by putting \n between the lines - not recommended, though, unless the second line is very short. You could `freeze` the player by putting such messages in front of locked doors or bars that only open afterwards.
Yes.. I agree with ya all, but :
1)in Quake there's no a game_text entity rj: trigger_relay ?! can you explain me better? 2)my maps are sp not multiplayer so there's only 1 player to be frozen (anyway frozen is not so important) Point is I want to create some intro for my map.. also static pictures could do the trick BUT I don't want to touch qc code if possible :) ---------------------------------------- If I got it right you say only Zerstorer and Vision(DarinMcNeil) have attempted to do cutscenes ? ------------------------------------------- Is it possible to start my map with a non-playable demo(Nehahra style)exiting to my playable map ---------------------------------------- You really should experiment with each of the available entities first. Then you will see all of their lovely limitations ;)
Trigger_once contains a (centerprint) message that you can set. Check out the intro to Vondur's new map for an example. Keeping the player 'frozen', however, is going to be more trouble than it it worth, IMHO. That's the answer. There are some speedmaps....
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=60162 I wonder how easy it would be to get some zerstorer mapsources? ..What is max length(characters) of a message with trigger_once ?
------------------------------------- How do I implement cutscenes portion code from Zer or Vision in my mod? Copy/paste in the progs.dat? Or need to modify other files ? ------------------------------------- Why nobody has created a simple camera entity for Worldcraft/Quake yet ? (eheh) info_camera. And if you do want to create your own mod then there's inside3d.com. I have zero QuakeC ability. You can map for Zerstorer (it's very similar to Quake, just a few entities added!
The mod comes with documentation and the source for the progs.dat! Inside the The CutsceneCameraKit has all you need.
You don't need to bunch Zerstorer. http://members.home.nl/gimli/cck.txt And as I couldn�t find the level on Quake addict..., http://members.home.nl/gimli/VISION.ZIP Darrin MacNeal was so good to make this level and add the CCK in 1-15/97.
Great level, I couldn�t find it on QuakAddicted. i feel i should warn you... even if you get the camera thing working, you will not get good results from panning the camera. stick to a still camera or at the most slide the camera itself.
if you must pan the camera, do it quickly. low angles resolution means a slow pan will be very jerky. On Negke's page, here: http://negke.quaddicted.com/files/aderlass_src.zip
trigger_once max characters is just under 40 I think, with 3 lines and 2 linebreaks (/n)
I remember seeing good panning results on newer GL game engines, not sure though. Always worth watching for me. ..actually I've just completed my big dvd(9gb)with all(I mean all!) Quake single-player stuff(but also dm)ever created..all sorted by author! a 4 years work! :(
1)in Quake there's no a game_text entity
rj: trigger_relay ?! can you explain me better? trigger_relay is your standard generic point entity trigger. by point entity i mean it doesn't have a brush; it cannot be activated by touching; only by another entity targeting it. so for a sequence of messages on the screen, you would have a trigger_once (or trigger_multiple) that the player would pass through, then that might have a target of 'gametext1'. you can then have three trigger_relay ents, all with a targetname of 'gametext1' but with different delay values like i described before. then you would simply edit the 'message' field in each one to display your text on the screen. you can even use the trigger_relay ents to target other things, which makes them far more useful than a plain game_text trigger :) for alternative intro ideas without cameras or demos, you could have the player suspended in an invisible clip box above a special area, or moving slowly through a trigger_push, before being teleported to the start location... Oh interesting
though free look is a problem for an intro.. ---------------------------------------------- Thanks for all suggestions.. Someone can explain(I'm a novice of qc code) step by step the implementation of camera code by DarinMcNeil ? -i've read the What files specifically do I need from it?only the progs? Cutscenes must be configured in Worldcraft or not ? The included level show most of the noted parms. I've extruded the vision.bsp to a mapfile with winqbsp. Then you can see the chosen entities, and how they act.
I tried out some of the events, and most are usefull. But the options are somewhat tricky so I copied parts of the map file to my own to identify the different use of the info_script. If you're not familiar with quake.qc it's easier just to use the included progs.dat. At least it is not as heavy as the whole zerstorer progs. I know the entities involved.. but I need help with the progs:
example: so I have to put Vision progs in my mod folder and create cutscenes editing the code in it ?? or camera entities can appear in Worldcraft ? ---------------------------------- what about camera code included in CUSTENTS by generalWart ? You put the progs.dat in your mod folder and create the cutscene in Worldcraft with the new info_camera and info_script entities as per the instructions in cck.txt.
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