And I'm glad you found that file repository Spirit - even looking at old verisions of ten-four on the wayback machine wasn't working because of the way the ten-four website was written. 

about this other than what is written here:

http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/time-of-reckoning-retail/

I tried checking QuakeTerminus to see if it is a broadly known product, but QT seems to be down for the count.

I would be highly surprised if there wasn't someone or many people who visit this forum who are not being commercially exploited by this. 

I've just moved to a different city, and before I moved I reformatted and put in a new hard drive. Don't worry I still have all my in-progress maps.

But I no longer have the software CD which came with my 3d card (ATI Radeon 9800 pro - kinda old, I know). Apparently you cannot download this original driver/software set from ATI's site, you can only download upgrades to it, which are worth exactly shit all with nothing to upgrade from. So basically, functionally I _have_ no 3d card. For a company I gave $500 to these guys sure are helpful.

If anyone's got the same card and wants to do me a giant favour, put the cd up for download somewhere? 

Wow, that is insane! I am skeptical though that their Catalyst drivers don't work for the 9800...? What happens when you try to install it? 

I just finished looking through their site for a second time trying to find a single email address listed for customer concerns, and have come to the conclusion that their website is the biggest example of bureaucratic shit online that I've ever come across. Yes, get rid of simple queries by listing FAQs and having troubleshooters, but JESUS CHRIST, there's nothing there but redundant loops of links that lead nowhere. What a bunch of cocks. 

because I don't have the CD. lol.

I can download and install upgrades, but that doesn't do anything. 

So you're talking about the driver file windows' installer uses? 

A 9250 - but that's no help.

And all the shit that was auto-installed (and I had to remove) means I'll never buy any of thier technology again. 

http://www.driverzone.com/device.php?id=52 or
http://www.oldapps.com/old_version_ati.php#about

There are probably more places like this. 

That CD is from 2004, not new. I'd like to see a copy too though.

It was not at Quake Terminus I am sure.

And Quake Terminus is not gone, Megazoid changed the host and it seems to take a while. :) 

And Quake Terminus is not gone, Megazoid changed the host and it seems to take a while. :)


That's good. I was looking for it cause Megazoid was always noted when mods were a bit (or alot!;)) in his notes about the, and I wondered if he might have already had this listed. 

and place 'sketchy' there after 'a bit'.

My spell check hand is too busy searching for Hudgens nude pics to be of any help today. 

All I can suggest is what aguirRe already said... try sites like oldversion.com to see if they have any drivers for you there.

Seriously though, why can't you just use the latest release? It lists 9800 as one of the supported chipsets. The driver selection page is here, you can see that they have a driver available for your card:

http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html

Unless you're not using XP or Vista, I don't see the problem. Note that if you are using windows 98/ME they also have a "legacy" option there in the OS menu.

It seems like you can't really go wrong.. I mean all they really offer is a full driver package that supports every card under the sun. It can't really get any easier than that! 

Alright maybe I'll stop hating on them temporarily and consider that the problem might be something else. 

My spell check hand is too busy searching for Hudgens nude pics to be of any help today.

Too busy I'm sure. You disgust me by looking at such filth. Especially the first picture. Number 3 was also filthy. 

different strokes for different folks

(hehehehe -- he said strokes) 

http://members.home.nl/gimli/headtump.avi 

glad you don't discuss public musquito's. 

having the bends but look at my knees going all wobbly there!

I've seen this one before. Maybe you should have put a pair of hot red colored nipples on me. People expect us to vary the shtick up a bit. 

I saw you posted links to your AOP and ATF fixes at tenfour. Would it be okay if I uploaded these along with your Shrak and Malice patches to Shubhub in case other people need them as well? Or is there another reason for not permanently keeping them on your website apart from lacking space? 

Please rather upload them at Quaddicted itself as such useful things deserve being in that archive I think (linked from the description).

The Shub-Hub is no archive, it's a dump. 

Does anyone have a Demonoid account? If you do could you please invite me to join?

In return you will have my eternal respect and gratitude. 

There are several reasons other than webspace shortage why I don't keep these mod patches permanently public. The main reason is that several of the mods are not free and even if they were, the authors might object to what I've done. I don't want to cause any conflicts.

It's also essentially a WIP, so older patches may be obsolete. The AoP/ATF patches at TenFour are also incomplete, as I felt the full variants might cause confusion. E.g. for ATF, the really important atfe2m3 map fix is missing, since it requires rebuilding bsps.

I don't know how to deal with this in another way than direct requests ... 

I see. 

You could just explain the situation on your site, and offer to take them down if there are any conflicts.