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Posted by Shambler on 2003/05/11 15:08:47 |
I thought a trio of themed threads about other entertainment media might be good. If you're not interested, please just ignore the thread and pick some threads that interest you from here: http://celephais.net/board/view_all_threads.php
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 HeadThump
#1660 posted by Vigil on 2006/11/20 05:20:52
If you didn't enjoy the book, you probably won't enjoy the movie. However, I'd recommend you read Holy Blood, Holy Grail, on which Da Vinci Code is based. Much more in-depth, and more entertaining, even if the writing style is excruciatingly boring.
 I Do Enjoy
#1661 posted by HeadThump on 2006/11/20 07:41:31
hidden history/conspiracy works both fiction and non fiction. Ecco's Focault's Pendulum and Philip Dick's last trilogy of novels explored some of the same areas as the Da Vinci Code and they are among my favorite novels. I even liked Angels & Demons as a thriller though the culprit is pretty easy to guess within the first paragraph he is introduced.
I thought with DC, Dan Brown was being deceptive; it is too new age-y and feminist for my blood.
I'll give HB,HG a look next time I'm at the local Barnes&Nobels. I go at least once a month to read Computer Arts from cover to cover('cause I'm cheap ;)).
 Indeed...
#1662 posted by distrans on 2006/11/21 21:06:29
...I recommend that everyone push their way through Foucault's Pendulum at some stage. Hard work in places, but well worth it.
 Eco Rocks
#1663 posted by nitin on 2006/11/22 00:49:36
and comparing him to dan brown is like comparing grahame greene to john grisham.
anyway, two more :
The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada (2006) - Tommy Lee Jones directs and stars in this surrealy bizarre western that is suposedly inspired by Sam Peckinpah's surrealy bizarre movie Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia. He plays Pete Prker, best riend to an illegan mexican immigrant who gets killed by a border patrolman, played very well by Barry Pepper. Taking the matter into his own hands, Pete takes Pepper's character and the body of Melquiades Estrada on a strange little journey back to Estrada's hometown in Mexico, with the aim of burying him in his home.
There's a few too many conicidences in the script, but otherwise it's pretty well written and goes in really unexpected directions. Tommy Lee Jones is nice and understated behind the camera, everyhting is thee to see, but its not always highlighted which is a good thing.
7.5/10
The Prestige - If you're going to go down the style over substance path this is the way to do it.
Christopher Nolan's classy tale of two rival magicians almost revels in its own structure and is backed up by some very good acting, even if it only scratches the surface in terms of its themes. The main twist is a bit too easy to spot too early into the movie, but its so well made and the writing is so exceptional in its attention to the little details, that it doesnt really matter.
Whilst is very good as is, I think a greater film could have been made if it wasnt so concerned with having twists but instead increased the focus on the nature of its main characters and its overriding theme of duality. Still, for the way he's chosen to gowith, Nolan does extremely well in the direction department and its highly recommended.
7.5/10
 Just To Be Clear,
#1664 posted by HeadThump on 2006/11/22 07:17:26
and I thought my caveats like 'as a thriller' , and the criticism I gave of The Da Vinci Code were enough to make it clear, I was in no way stating Dan Brown is in Umberto Ecco's league.
 Bump
#1665 posted by HeadThump on 2006/11/24 10:57:55
so Nitin doesn't have to sift through the index to find the thread later this week end
 Oh, This Looks Interesting
#1666 posted by HeadThump on 2006/11/24 11:01:11
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0416449/
The trailer is a visual feast, like El Greco applied to the talkies.
 Headthump
#1667 posted by nitin on 2006/11/24 16:04:29
:)
yeah 300 could be either really reaaly bad or really really good
#1668 posted by nitin on 2006/11/27 01:34:32
Arrested Development Season 3 - still funnier than most things on tv, but season 3 is a level below season 2 and well below the standard of season 1. It's a lot more patchy and goes for a lot more cheap jokes, not all of which work, but some of the middle episodes in the series come together really well. Pity it was cancelled, but 3 quality series is still 50 epidsodes of classy comedy.
7.5/10
Dressed to Kill (1980) - you can call it a ripoff or you can call it a homage, but Brian de Palma's doppelganger imitation of Psycho, right down to the narrative structure, is nowhere near the same league.
There are some really well directed set pieces, but that's offset by some terrible acting (especially by Nancy Allen) and some even worse dialogue. De Palma utilises his favorite trick (which I dont want to mention) a bit too many times, lessening any impact the ending actually had. This is very very good during its wordless sequences where the camera and music are handled amazingly well, but gets derailed almost everytime certain characters open their mouth.
5.5/10
The Legend of Zorro - very very average in all areas. Generic plot, generic characters, very generic action scenes, and far too overlong for what it is.
4/10
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia (1971) - Sam Peckinpah's bleak, surreal and bizarre film about a low life mexican who has to obtain the head of a man named Alfredo Garcia to collect a bounty that could lead him and his prostitute lover to a better life.
Its basically a road movie of sorts, mixed with a western and its very nihilistic in its view of the world and the human condition. I found it to have a few pacing problems, with too much time being spent early on in establishing the main character and not enough time spent on the second half when he starts to mentally deteriorate after a few nasty incidents.
Warren Oates puts in a commanding performance as the main character Bennie and Peckinpah is a bit more restrained than usual in his direction, which works in some scenes but not in others which lack a bit of energy.
7/10
 Arrested Development
#1669 posted by HeadThump on 2006/11/27 09:10:44
Season 3 -- There is a scene when a certain exceptional actress wearing funny hats in the show is revealed to be an imbecile; the reaction
of the law enforcement types listening in caused me to explode with laughter. The season is uneven at best but there are some real comic moments of genius in the mix.
 Headthump
#1670 posted by nitin on 2006/11/27 13:59:07
agreed.
That was a classic moment.
 Casino Royale
#1671 posted by R.P.G. on 2006/12/03 08:14:13
This is the second Bond movie that I've seen--the other was one with Sean Connery. I wasn't disappointed with this one, although it was a bit predictable in places.
Daniel Craig seemed to be a good Bond. The torture scene everyone keeps talking about somehow didn't get to me, though.
Recommended.
#1672 posted by nitin on 2006/12/03 17:54:25
Entourage Season 2 - more of the same, although it's slightly better than season 1 because there's a few more interesting events occurring. That means its an easy watch which is reasonably entertaining but because of the extremely one dimesnional characters and the shallower than a 5 day old rain puddle shallowness, it is also instantly forgettable. Jeremy Piven cotinues to provide the only interesting character in the show, hollywood agent Ari Gold.
7/10
Miami Vice - A miscalculated misfire from Michael Mann. Its infused with plenty of style and Dion Beebes' cinematography is pretty good, if not upto his previous work with Mann on Collateral. However, Mann imbues the movie with more gravitas than the material can handle, and the whole thing pretty much collapses under its own weight.
The script is poor and the pacing is all over the place, with early scenes being far too chaotic and the middle section being far too limp. Jamie Foxx does well individually but has zero spark with Colin Farell while Gong Li does reasonably well with a poorly written role.
Even the action scenes, which to be fair are still far better than the tripe most movies try and pass off as action scenes, are not as good as in Mann's other films.
5.5/10
Silent Hill - Christophe Gans's first movie, Brotherhood of the Wolf, was a glorious mess but this one is just an absolute mess.
Based on the popular horror game franchise, the production design is excellent and the visuals are impressive, if a little too CGI, with some truly grotesque and hellish scenery. But as far as a sense of dread or suspense goes, they are nonexistent. It might be flashy but it is definitely not scary.
It is also scripted like a video game, characters literally going from one room or level to another whilst avoiding obstacles and monsters, which when given the 2 hour + runtime becomes extremely tedious.
On a side note, quite a few reviews upon release complained about it being almost incomprehensible. I didnt find it to be like that, in fact by the time it's over it makes as much as sense as most David Lynch films.
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#1673 posted by nitin on 2006/12/03 17:54:59
silent hill would be 3/10
 Nitin...
#1674 posted by bal on 2006/12/03 23:25:47
Brotherhood of the Wolf wasn't Gans' first movie, he also did Crying Freeman and a segment from that Necronomicon thingy.
 Bal
#1675 posted by nitin on 2006/12/04 05:14:15
really? I always thought Brotherhood was his first, what's crying freeman about ?
 Crying Freeman
#1676 posted by JPL on 2006/12/04 06:16:08
Very good film !
 Nitin
#1677 posted by bal on 2006/12/04 06:20:29
I'm surprised you haven't heard of it, it's quite popular (based off a very successful manga), more so than Brotherhood (as that one was produced in France).
It's also with Mark Dacascos, he plays an assassin working for some powerful yakuza gang, but love makes him reconsider his current job (yeah, typical, heh =). It's an ok movie.
 Bal
#1678 posted by nitin on 2006/12/04 13:18:22
so it's not french then ?
 Nitin
#1679 posted by bal on 2006/12/05 01:14:33
It's a USA/France/Japan co-production, but most of it takes place in the US and a bit in Japan if I remember correctly.
#1680 posted by Trinca on 2006/12/05 01:40:21
saw this one with my kid in cinema last weekend :)
http://www.flushedaway.com/flash/index.html
great movie!!!
P.S--> for those that have kids go see is a great one ;)
#1681 posted by nitin on 2006/12/06 05:33:10
Riding Alone for Thousands of Miles (2005) - Zhang Yimou's latest falls well short of the greatness of his earlier works but is still quite a decent film.
In this tale of a Japanese man who attempts to reconnect with his son by going to China and filming a particular masked opera, the plotting is a bit contrived and the whole thing too melodramatic, but the direction is strong and the acting even stronger.
But it looks like this was only a temporary return for Yimou to his ealrier type of films, as his next one looks very similar to Hero and House of Flying Daggers.
7/10
The Big Heat (1953) - Above average film noir from Fritz Lang which is a bit too sentimental in parts to really work as a noir and also has a not so convincing Glenn Ford in the lead role as Detective Bannion who tries to singlehandedly battle beauracracy, corruption and crime at the same time. Its derivative stuff, but it works to an extent due to tight direction and good performances from supporting players, especially Lee Marvin and Gloria Grahame.
6.5/10
#1682 posted by nitin on 2006/12/08 17:18:00
The Conformist (1970) - Along with Raise the Red Lantern, this was another movie that I'd been wanting to see for years. And like Raise the Red Lantern, it was well worth the wait.
Bernardo Bertolucci's film is a headspinning experience thanks to the dizzying visuals and the even more dizzying narrative structure. It's not hard to see why Scorsese and Coppola adore this movie about a member of Mussolini's secret police who becomes a fascist not out of greed nor out of fanaticism, but out of the desire to become 'normal'.
The visuals by Vittorio Storare are on par with his work on Apocalypse Now, the camerawork is so fluid it will make your average cinematogrpaher cry. The music is not on the same level but is still very memorable and fits the action on screen like a glove. And beneath all the style, there is a lot of substance, but due to the complex narrative and the speed at which it moves along, it's quite difficult to take it all in.
That's basically my only complaint, along with some dodgy dubbing, I would have preferred a slightly slower pace so that certain events were given more time to register an impact.
8/10
#1683 posted by nitin on 2006/12/08 23:07:08
Fallen Idol (1948) - It's not quite in the same league as that other more famous collabration between Graham Greene and Carol Reed, The Third Man, but its still a great film. Apart form a dodgy and overly bombastic score and the pulling of a punch at the end, there is not much wrong with this.
The acting's great, especially from the child actor, the direction' tight and the script's almost perfect in his thriller that's made not only from a child's perspective but also within a child's world.
8/10
 Slightly OT
#1684 posted by HeadThump on 2006/12/08 23:40:10
but your comment,
Apart form a dodgy and overly bombastic score
reminded me of Ladyhawk, a decent fantasy flick from the 80's that is close to unwatcheable now because of a terrible score. 80's synth hasn't aged well.
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