non-interruptable intro movies are a massive pain in the ass and having to delete files to get around them is a slap in the face. industry-ass -> my-face 

Must be a language barrier. You cherry picked a piece of my response to the piracy vs retail image and are using it to rail against .. intro movies? 

Well, the other things you said are not quite reality so I ignored them. The one about deleting files to not be annoyed by something was left so I picked it.


Independent from this: http://t-a-w.blogspot.com/2010/02/game-theory-video-game-piracy-and.html 

"Well, the other things you said are not quite reality so I ignored them. "

Oh for FFS. Whatever man. 

the other things I read are quite reality...

(couldn't help it) 

1) drive to the store
well, downloading is fine, unless you care about privacy. so, legitimate games don't offer me an option I can live with other than buying the game at a store.
legit 0:1 piracy
2) see 1)
legit 0:2 piracy
3) most games have keys that i have to type in from the box, right? Pirated games at least allow me to c&p the shit in.
legit 0:3 piracy
4) i install games not often enough to know how likely shitty setups are, but i sure remember some. Not counting this
5) DRM, Spyware, Rootkits, yeah, all there. Thank you. One could argue that you'd have to virus check pirated files, but then i could argue that a) at least i CAN find the problems with a check and b) you'd have to do that on legit media, too, (and can't if you buy in to downloads)
legit 0:4 piracy
6) yeah, unskippable logos are so fucking annoying. And no, i'm not investing my time to dig into the files of the games to disable those.
legit 0:5 piracy
7) haven't seen ingame ads yet, but there are ads for dlc everywhere these days.
legit 0:5.5 piracy
8) patches. well, sure, there's isos that are fully patched, but not before the official patch is released, and it's hard to install patches for pirated games (not the fault of the pirates though :)), so i'll count this for the legit games
legit 1:5.5 piracy

I don't really see how you can call that "total fail" ;-)

Spirit: that article is awesome! 

Good article. 

"well, downloading is fine, unless you care about privacy. so, legitimate games don't offer me an option I can live with other than buying the game at a store."

You're a freak. 

Nobody drives to the store anymore (Steam), nobody installs 6 discs anymore (digital downloads), intro movies are usually removed by a simple file renaming, ... I mean, really?


willem, you seem to have a very narrow field of view when it comes to 'nobody'. 

Order from Steam, order from Amazon, order from any game store online. I can't imagine anyone actually trekking out to the store to buy a game these days. 

Most games are still sold in stores Willem.

Having said that, if you're not ready to go to the store, or to get your game delivered online, or to buy it on steam or something, and can't be bothered to copy a serial key (oh noes!) maybe you shouldn't be playing games.

Oh, and Steam rocks. 

I don't think I've actually been out to the store to buy a game for ... a long while. Steam/Amazon/BestBuy.com (when there's a sale) are all I use for buying games online. I just cba to actually physically move myself to get a game when I can just buy online and download it or have it shipped to me at work. 

A bit of a weird question: what racing/car games have a publically available mapping/track editor? 

Trackmania Nations.
And Stunts. ;) 

There's some game coming out on PS3/PSP that's all about the track editing and car/character editing. 

http://maniadrive.raydium.org/
http://torcs.sourceforge.net/
http://www.tastystatic.com/
http://speed-dreams.sourceforge.net/
http://www.syntensity.com/ (sauerbraten, yay) 

I bought my copy of L4D2 in a store, just because it would be quicker to get it on my HDD than downloading it from the net :)
And the box was slightly cheaper than the steam store price. 

If its not on disk it ain't worth the risque. 

As for the RQ type dialemma - please just carry on regardless for me ;)

Dont let one opinion affect your own will. You POV is just as valid as any other **** ;) 

 

 

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<RickyT23> do you think it would work on my level?
<RickyT23> Its a very big level
<@LordHavoc> never know until you try
<RickyT23> True
<@LordHavoc> the main feature of hmap2 -light is that it is several times faster than other light utils
<RickyT23> I will have to try
<@LordHavoc> (and accordingly has -extra8x8 to make it slow, with 64 sample antialiasing)
<RickyT23> which would probably look cool.
<@LordHavoc> since one always wants a light util to take lots of time for a final compile :P
<RickyT23> Does it output .lit files?
<@LordHavoc> ... I invented .lit :P
<RickyT23> ah

LordH is cool though, very cool, and helpful. 

<@LordHavoc> ... I invented .lit :P

something for the religion thread no?