i liked the first 4 or 5 the most. by the end, the story felt like it was moving too far away from the original content. obviously, it's an epic story, so that's to be expected to an extent, but it would have as if all the swords were replaced with ducks in the third lotr book or something. 

just picked up 'a game of thrones' (first in the 'a song of ice and fire' series). only started, but it's solid so far. i'd venture to say it might be better than wheel of time, but i haven't read enough yet to be sure. 

i'm sorry - song of susannah is number six. stephen king is real king... his imagination has no limits. i've heard about plans to make a movie based on dark tower series. i'm afraid it will be disaster. 

i'm afraid it will be disaster.
i would be surprised if it wasn't.

honestly, the books are way too big to put on screen. some of the books would have to be split into two films themselves.

it might be possible to make an adaptation out the first book with bits of the second though. 

i'm afraid it will be disaster.
i would be surprised if it wasn't.


miracles sometimes happen :-) 

it looks and sounds interesting, i'm just-a wondering.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Iron_Heel 

I think Song of Ice and Fire is way better than any Wheel of Time stuff, it's alot less cheesy and the characters are just much more interesting. Oh and it's not stealing 90% of it's content from other novels. 

well, good to know i've got a good book ahead of me then. 

Struggled to get through the first book. Dunno what it is about him but really not an inspiring writer. 

I like Stephen King a lot but I never got into The Dark Tower. I'd recommend It or Salem's Lot from the top of my head. 

Yase! 

bans Zwiffle from this thread. 

If you're just going to suggest shitty books I don't want to be here anyway. 

I read A Game of Thrones last summer, and was intrigued by it enough to read A Clash of Kings this summer. Some aspects of both books and the universe they are set in annoyed me, but overall they were both pretty good, if a little too epic like most fantasy. Now I'm reading a book of Glen Cook's early short stories, that should be exactly the right antidote to "too epic-ness." 

on game of thrones,

i originally got the first book after a discussion with some random cashier dude at the local computer parts store...

he brought it up when i expressed my annoyance with wheel of time, and how about 75% of the characters are just plain unlikeable. it *is* possible to have likable villains after all.

game of thrones is filled with likable characters, or at least characters that you can understand why they are pieces of shit. from that point alone i would recommend the book because even if you don't really like the direction the story is heading in, you can at least root for almost all the characters. 

I've never read Wheel of Time but it seems like generic fantasy; I agree that Game of Thrones is more interesting than the genre average which seems to be largely character-free, the dwarf character for example (Tyrion) is awesome. 

yeah, wheel of time has some really great things. one of my favourite is the magic system. it's very scientific in that there's no inexplicable wand waving but instead concrete rules that the system functions on. it's thing like that they make me wish i could stand most of the characters behaving like complete and utter morons. 

anyone given this a read?

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6965582-ass-goblins-of-auschwitz 

ass goblins. i'm totally insulting someone with that today. 

First book of China's that I've read, and I love his writing style. It's smooth and largely cliche free, sometimes bordering on poetry instead of prose.

The characters themselves are pretty interesting, there wasn't really a good guy but rather a bunch of anti-heroes with differing desires. They range from the mundane (Shekel) to the downright creepy and bizarre (The Lovers) with most everything in between (Kruach Aum or whatever his name was.)

The plot was alright, but I kind of wish it ended a little more ... resolutely than it did.

SPOILER - they ended up putting in all that effort (and thus most of the story) really for nothing, forfeiting their prize and the sacrifices they made when their goal was finally within reach. /SPOILER

I'm totally intrigued by all the places/people of Bas-Lag, and I'm pretty into China's writing style, so I think I will probably check out his other stuff as well. 

Ass Goblins.