Func_Msgboard: Remake Quake Tedious Beef Thread.

Posted by Baker on 2011/02/22 13:23:43

This thread is more for fun that anything else. There a conservative streak in me, but a radical streak too. I appreciate both sides of the coin.

That being said, although I do not find Spirit's archiving limits unreasonable, I do find some of the objections to the body of work in Remake Quake totally unreasonable.

Some people criticize Remake Quake as not being "Quake" enough and cry about it.

My personal opinion is that aside from Negke --- who I believe is an especially unique enigma unmatched in his unconventional and perfectionist style --- that the 1,376 id1 maps at Quaddicted adequately cover everything of substance that is ever gonna be done with id1 Quake.

I think Remake Quake is doing exactly the kind of thing that Carmack envisioned when he open-sourced damn near all of Quake: experimentation and risky creativity.

Seriously, aside from a puzzle and a grappling hook [Oh noes ... 3D navigations!! OMG ... ] and a vial here and there Remake Quake is Quake to the core. Just with more imagination.

It doesn't have any of Mr. Fribble's derided blinking T-Shirts or any silly bling. Instead it has awesome sleeping Shamblers.

In the words of the sometimes objectionable, and yet immortally wise and always appreciated for he who is/was/continues-to-be, Shambler ...

Discuss. Preferably without references to bees. ;)

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#1 posted by Baker on 2011/02/22 13:27:23

Hating that one Tronyn mod with the wand and the music and the zombies and the trees. I liked it, played it 6 times. It was not "tuned" admittedly, those zombie bastards were hard to deal with. I just don't see the any decent argument for infinite "sameness" where "infinite sameness" has been beaten to death 10x over.

Really!

Dm Is Not Sp Enough

#2 posted by nitin on 2011/02/22 13:50:55

boo hoo :)

#3 posted by mh on 2011/02/22 13:53:56

It depends on how you define "ultra-conservative". Taken to it's logical extreme, it could mean that anything that's not ID1 content and gameplay is "not Quake".

My belief is that - even in the pre-GPL days - Quake was designed from the outset to be user-modifiable. There is plenty of evidence to back that up.

As soon as something is user-modifiable the ball is so far out of the park that it's actually in the next city. If something *can* be done then it *will* be done. You can either reject that and stick to your guns, or accept and embrace it in all it's glory.

By the "Quake was designed to be user-modifable from the outset" yardstick, it's fair to say that *everything* *is* Quake. Even the remake of Wolf3D e1m1 that's hosted on Quaddicted (which to my mind is even less "Quake" than RMQ could ever be) *is* "Quake". That is all.

Fuck This Thread Fuck You Fuck RemakeQuake

#4 posted by czg on 2011/02/22 13:56:53

#5 posted by - on 2011/02/22 14:02:04

Are you really so vain as to make a thread crying about the critisms of your shitty ass mod? QfuckingQ, kill yourself.

Czg

#6 posted by Vondur on 2011/02/22 14:21:35

how's your hardware adventure?

Who Said Rmq Wasn't 'quake' Enough?

#7 posted by jt_ on 2011/02/22 14:33:57

And where was it said? I don't recall that happening.

Uh ... Thanks Czg & Scampers

#8 posted by Baker on 2011/02/22 14:41:56

... but I an not involved in Remake Quake.

But having diverse interests and likes ranging from stock Quake to Quakelife [an FTEQW-based Half-Life adaption of sorts to Quake] to Kurok and various total conversions I am curious to the *real* objections to modifications found in Remake Quake.

CZG, I guess aside from being an elite mapper, you are are a "gaylord" ... enough said. ;)

I Did. Quaddicted Was The Subject.

#9 posted by Spirit on 2011/02/22 14:46:11

Baker is not part of that team!

mh: "Quake" means different things to different people. RMQ changes all the weapons and monsters which makes it a different game for me.

To give some perspective, QuakeWorld is vastly more like the original Quake than RMQ is. Now ask Netquake players what they think of it. :-)

#10 posted by - on 2011/02/22 14:48:19

Apologies, I was confused.

RMQ is still a shitty ass mod.

Well Chiefly Of All; The New Sounds In RemakeQuake Are Complete Shit

#11 posted by czg on 2011/02/22 14:49:37

Vondur I got my mobo and cpu today and now I'm just waiting for the new ram really, and then I gotta go out and get a gpu as well, couldn't find one earlier...
Hopefully will have everything up and running on Thursday or something?

You Didn't Seriously

#12 posted by anonymous user on 2011/02/22 14:51:37

just make a fucking forum thread about this, did you. Your site/blog whine was already pretty borderline stupid, but this is just getting pathetic.

Now It's On!

#13 posted by czg on 2011/02/22 14:52:49

By the way Von I have a really cool rumor to tell you guys when I get back on IRC so remind me about that or I will forget.

Czg Sure

#14 posted by Vondur on 2011/02/22 15:01:42

czg sure

Czg

#15 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/02/22 15:02:36

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-560-ti-roundup-asus-engtx560-graphics-card-overclocking,2858.html

#16 posted by meTch on 2011/02/22 16:50:34

http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/shit-storm-weatherman.jpg

#17 posted by rj on 2011/02/22 18:33:00

Your site/blog whine was already pretty borderline stupid, but this is just getting pathetic.

that was gb with the site/blog whine, not baker unless i'm missing something? please use your name.

i think this discussion was covered enough already at quaddicted

Heh

#18 posted by Tronyn on 2011/02/22 18:44:07

must there be such animosity over this, actually the impression that I get is that we all basically agree on what a Q1SP is.

Also

#19 posted by rj on 2011/02/22 18:44:54

Quakelife [an FTEQW-based Half-Life adaption of sorts to Quake]

link?

I Saw This Thread And Regretted Logging In

#20 posted by onetruepurple on 2011/02/22 19:28:18

Errrr

#21 posted by JPL on 2011/02/22 19:42:41

Could the question in the thread title be replied by a simple yes and no ?

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