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Anyway, discuss films...
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The Wilhelm Scream 
You've all heard it, you can't un-hear it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdbYsoEasio

I always wondered where this cinematic legend came from :) 
DaZ 
funny ! 
 
Drillbit Taylor (2008)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0817538/
So stupid that typing this is a waste. 
 
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

Was fun. Before I saw it, I was told that it was a very reactive film: things just happen, for no reason, and the characters just react to them, which was pretty accurate but also pretty irrelevant to enjoying the ride.

Breach

Interesting spy tale, sent me off to wikipedia to read up on the real events (which, as far as pikiwedia goes at least, seem to be pretty accurately reflected in the film). But dear God, it starts slowly.

Prince Caspian

Eh... I need to read the books again, I think. But this seemed pretty uneven. I kept trying to just see it as a fantasy tale and ignore the religious overtones and failing. Whether this say most about me, the source or the film making, I'm not really sure. 
Indy 4 Is Good Fun 
not as good as 1 and 3, but better than 2 IMHO.

I found Breach above average, but apart from the main acting it was a bit lacking. 
 
The Dark Knight - the best film of the year to date by a considerable margin. Starts off a bit messily where its overly chaotic for the first 45 min or so but once it settles down, it's an absolute cracker of a movie. The second half in particular is some of the most thrilling cinema in recent years.

From very early on it establishes that the threats are real and the stakes are high, something which serves it very well during the second half where it feels like anything can happen.

Performances are absolutely first rate (especially Ledger, Eckhart and Oldman) and save a couple of lines of dialogue, its also pretty well written.

8.5/10 
Looking Forwards To It Now!!! 
 
Oh Yeah 
if you can, definitely watch it in IMAX. 
Batman. 
I thought Batman Begins was the best action hero film ever and one of the best in any action genre, mostly because it portrayed the fantastical subject matter in a gritty, well-thought-out and altogether convincing way, something which is usually and critically lacking in sci-fi / action films.

I'm very much looking forward to TDK. 
Shambler 
it was but TDK is better :) 
Batty 
Shambler said: "mostly because it portrayed the fantastical subject matter in a gritty, well-thought-out and altogether convincing way, something which is usually and critically lacking in sci-fi / action films."

Except for the... technology :) 
Still 
compare BB to any other movie of a similar genre (or even previous batman movies), and it's a lot more believable/less retarded.

seeing TDK friday night, cannot wait.

Nolan and Bale rule. 
Technology. 
I seem to remember some of the Batman technology was half-explained / justified in the film?? Something about military tech or something?? That itself seemed unusual, and good, for this style of film.

P.S. Is Wall-E any good? 
TDK (no Spoilers) 
Best movie this year by far, and not likely to lose the spot either. Whereas Burton brought his "style of film" (the 'ironic warped fairlytale' - which over the years I've realized that I really don't like) to Batman, Nolan has finally had the chance to bring his style (complex scripts full of manipulation and double crosses) to it. Nolan's movies are always strong because of the scripts he and his brother write, and this is one of his best. You are always in the middle of something, the good guys (and the audience) can barely keep up (this will demand multiple viewings). A lot is always implied to be going on in the background. Nolan also fixes the problems with action/fight scenes in Batman Begins - the fights and action scenes here are great. Furthermore, he isn't worried about maintaining any kind of comfortable stability - (what you get in, say spiderman - all three movies were predictable because of this). This is a world where anything can, and will, happen.

Ledger's performance is fucking amazing. I hadn't seen anything with him in it before, but this role is brilliant - arguably even more brilliant than Javier Bardem in No Country or Daniel Day-Lewis in There Will Be Blood last year. I actually think he IMPROVED upon the comic-book version of the Joker. He is totally credible as an utterly unrealistic, bizarre, psychotic character (like Bardem), who somehow exists whether you like it or not. 
Heh 
"This is a world where anything can, and will, happen."

pretty much my thoughts from above :

"From very early on it establishes that the threats are real and the stakes are high, something which serves it very well during the second half where it feels like anything can happen."

Ledger's been great before but because it was a 'gay cowboy movie', no one cared :)

It really is a cross between a Batman film and say Michael Mann, particularly Heat.

I thought Eckhart was very very good too. 
One Thing Which Also Impressed Me (length Warning) 
was the use of humor. A film this dark needs some comic relief, and it wasn't just the joker but other characters occasionally who did this. I mean, I love dark, deranged, nihilistic films, and this is by far the darkest "blockbuster" I've ever seen, but it is impressive that they were able to incorporate moments of humour or hope, where were all the more poignant because of their rarity.

Nolan picks good films to be influenced by - Blade Runner on Batman Begins, and now Heat on TDK. The Blade Runner influence on BB wasn't as much as I would have liked - I'd LOVE to see them delve into the neo-futuristic Azrael-Batman storylines or even The Dark Knight Returns, but even so it was cool. Heat's influence can be seen all over TDK, and TDK captures the brilliance of Heat very well. The only thing it doesn't do is capture the mafia's perspective as Heat did. I always thought it would be interesting if an anti-criminal hero movie could be combined with something like The Godfather where the criminals have their own perspective. In TDK, obviously, the Joker has no rules, but there are other criminals who do have rules and even ideals (the guy at the start, for example). Falconi in BB was good, it would be nice to see this angle explored more (although, at 2.5 hours of jam-packed implication-exploration there is no room for anything else).

This movie is probably impossible to top, and so it might be advisable for Nolan to quit while he's ahead. That said, what I'd like to see is Nolan cap off the trilogy with something even better (and continued critical acclaim), and then hand it off to another director with a TOTALLY DIFFERENT vision (perhaps Darren Arofonsky, who was Nolan's main rival in being director of the rebooted Batman series). I'd love to see Bane done properly, but he's nothing without the story elements attached to him. In an uneconomic, perfect world, Nolan would end Part 3 with Bane's victory over batman, and Arofonsky would start a new series with an entirely different style, as Azrael acts as Batman while Wayne recuperates. 
Well 
Yeah, I dunno what they can do in the next one. It would almost have to be Poison Ivy as the main villain, I don't know how they could do Mr. Freeze or Penguin. Manbat would be cool, but unbelievable in this setting. 
Penguin And Catwoman 
would be my guess.

tronyn,

there's Heat but there's also the classic noir feel which Nolan's obviously a fan of (Memento and Insomnia both had this too) and which is well suited to this because the Batman comics started out of that same genre really.

As for the trilogy, they all signed on for 3 at the start, and I do think this is one case where some thought has gone into where each film will be generally heading. This doesnt end like BB which signalled a sequel but its not hard to see where the third is going to head into. 
Are You Guys Serious? 
Nolan specifically stated that he will never include penguin (or robin, thank god!) because the character is "too far-fetched." Now, the reimagined, new penguin (an eccentric arms dealer) seems totally appropriate for nolan's universe, but apparently he thinks there is no way to make this character work in his batman universe. He will never include manbat, clayface, or poision ivy - any character that involves superpowers, mutation, or even anything beyond what a normal human COULD DO, I think, he will leave out. No explicit scifi or fantasy will be present in the new series.

In my view the best villain would be Bane (Batman's unholy trinity is Ra's Al Ghul (uber-moral), Joker (anti-moral) and Bane (amoral). I'd love to see someone like Eric Bana play an absolutely ruthless, unsympathetic, Nietzschean power-driven psychopath. If anyone could match Ledger's performance in creating a powerful, unique, anti-Batman perspective, that would be it.

PS Nitin: I agree with the noir feel, Following especially had that... and it is as you say very appropriate. 
 
Watched Chinatown yesterday and while I really enjoyed it, the ending completely and utterly ruined it for me. 
Chinatown 
has a great ending! Wouldnt be my second favorite movie without it :) 
Hmm 
Haven't seen it yet, but as for views on the next villains, I was assuming Riddler/Poison Ivy/Bane/Black Mask.

Given Ivy is apparently out due to 'super powers', my money is on Bane/Riddler (Bane+Black Mask wouldn't work since they're both basically disturbed gang leaders).

Making Bane dumb muscle in the 4th film was one of the greatest crimes in comic book adaptations, and Nolan has shown he knows his Batman with these two films (Ra's and Scarecrow... fsck yeh).

In an uneconomic, perfect world, Nolan would end Part 3 with Bane's victory over batman, and Arofonsky would start a new series with an entirely different style, as Azrael acts as Batman while Wayne recuperates.

Fscking YES. Shame it won't happen. (Although it is a bit too close to the Fall storyline, but would be a brilliant way to please the bat fans) 
 
Bane/Ridder could work. Scarface *could* work, but I would seriously hope they wouldn't go there, since Scarface is one of the stupidest enemies ever. Who the fuck would ever follow a talking puppet? Catwoman could work, and possibly move into her own spinoff, but I imagine they'd want to stay away from Catwoman after the Halle Berry incidient.

Batman needs more ninjas! 
Given Certain Events In The Film 
I think catwoman is pretty likely. 
Just Watched A Film Called 
"untraceable"

really good film. gritty in places but has a good ending. excellent ending infact - truely inspired I thought 
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