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I thought a trio of themed threads about other entertainment media might be good. If you're not interested, please just ignore the thread and pick some threads that interest you from here: http://celephais.net/board/view_all_threads.php

Anyway, discuss films...
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i didn't really like the new star trek movie.

the bridge of the enterprise reminded me of galaxy quest...
it's sad when a movie looks like a movie that was a parody of it's source material.

that and some of the stuff was contrived.
(spoilers below...)



why would spock maroon kirk on a planet... i know he was pissed, but it's just nonsensical. wouldn't he have just tossed him in holding cell or something? to waste an escape pod and actually come close to killing him just seems wierd. of course, if he hadn't landed on that planet, he wouldn't have met spock or scotty (spock just happens to have been marooned on the same planet which is close enough to vulcan that you can see it with the naked eye AND scotty is there too??)
i liked the bit about archer's dog though. 
Necros 
the only explanation is in the fucha' the universe is smaller [not likely considering its expanding still] and there running out of planets [or they just keep spending there travel money on ice cream, yes just like 3drealms, and on top of that they are too lazy to find a better planet able to support marooned space dudes, guys, things] 
Also Not Sold On Star Trek 
It was fun and all, but I felt it somehow lacked drama, apart from the opening scene. 
Shambler 
but that's my point, you can see that TDK and Watchmen would be non-standard but still spectacle filled blockbusters from the trailers. 
Yes... 
...correct.

And? 
Star Trek Trailer 
generic sci fi blockbuster. uninteresting :) 
 
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind = Traffic

Synecdoche, New York = Syriana 
Heh 
was planning to see synecdoche this weekend, not expecting it to be as good as Eternal Sunshine, Adaptation or Malkovich though. 
Have A Few To Catch Up On But Heres A Start 
Doubt (2008) - generally well written and with some terrific performances but I did find the last act a little forced in its attempt to leave things unresolved, there were certain instances of dialogue that deliberately danced around the issue of certainty but rang hollow in terms of what the characters may actually have said in those circumstances.

Worth seeing just for the acting alone and for some remarkable shots from Roger Deakins (the waking up of the nuns in particular).

7/10


Frost/Nixon (2008) - didn't think I was ever going to say this but this is a very skilfully directed film by Ron Howard. Sure the script is very strong and Frank Langella is amazing in Nixon's role but Howard makes sure that he doesn't become an overbearing presence. I also think that Michael Sheen's role in the film as Frost is a little underappreciated, he played off Langella brilliantly. And Howard builds momentum very nicely too, this is one of the few recent films that is perfectly paced.

7.5-8/10


The Hit (1984) - Terence Stamp's gangster henchman turned informant is pursued from his hiding place in a remote spanish village by two hit men, played by John Hurt and Tim Roth. The non-existent plot is elevated to very watchable level by the performances of the three leads, some gorgeous photography of the spanish countryside and Stephen Frears' use of music by Eric Clapton and flamenco guitarist Paco de Lucia.

6.5-7/10


The Friends of Eddie Coyle (1974) - apparently this has been out of circulation since its theatrical release (until the overseas dvd release a few weeks ago) which is a real shame because it's a stunner of a film. Robert Mitchum gets one of his best roles, and that's saying a lot in itself, as Eddie Coyle, a gunrunner for the low level Boston mafia who gets himself into trouble and finds out the hard way that his 'friends' are anything but.

Peter Yates may best be known for making Bullitt but this is a superior film, made in a very understated style but with a very sharp eye for detail and great sympathy for its less than heroic characters. Some might find it too slow or too confusing but if you stick with it, it's a little gem of a movie.

7.5/10


State of Play (2009) - while it does suffer from constant plot exposition (probably a result of cramming the six hour BBC miniseries into a 2 hr movie), this is fairly good mainstream entertainment that is reasonably intelligent most of the time.

Kevin McDonald's documentary background works well with the political thriller format and he has at his disposal a pretty interesting story with some ripper plot twists. The big name cast are all very solid but could have been used better if the movie had allowed its characters some more time.

7/10 
Sherlock Holmes Trailer 
Directed by Guy Ritchie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4K3aM5H5KM

Looks fucking horrific. Basically two hours of Tony Stark pissing on Arthur Conan Doyle's grave, directed by the biggest asshole in the entire world.

They nailed the character though, especially with the shirtless fist-fighting in a pit scene, very Holmes. What the fuck?

In a minor tangent, what a wonderful show House is. It's also loosely based on Sherlock Holmes, but in contrast, isn't completely retarded. 
Jeeez... 
Well they've fucked that one right up haven't they.

I do vaguely recall that the fist-fighting was a part of Holmes, I may be wrong about that??

However the cliched Hollywood action cheese and lame generic humour was certainly NOT... 
 
The Reader (2008) - decent film, mainly because of the story, but there's three main thing wrongs with it : a) it really should have been in german, it just felt off in accented english b) its at least 20 min too long and c) Kate Winslet who was not suited to the role. Fine actress but this is not her best work, too often she looked like she was trying to act rather than actually acting.

Still, some interesting themes, even if the execution is not quite up to scratch.

6-6.5/10


Revolutionary Road (2008)- effectively 2 hrs of watching two selfish, petulant, childish and idiotic people bicker and fight with each other. It might have worked if it had any emotional pull but, barring a few scenes towards the end where Roger Deakins' cinematography transcends the material, its as dramatically convincing as dishwater.

There's a line in the movie about knowing what you have, what you dont have and what you want. Director Sam Mendes makes the crucial mistake of only superficially hinting at what the Wheelers have, dont have and want. Without that, all the constant fighting has no context and just rings plain hollow.

5/10


The Man Who Fell to Earth (1976) - Nicolas Roeg's dour, bizarre and glacially paced sci fi film is a little disappointing, especially considering its full of very interesting ideas and some great visual imagery. David Bowie aptly plays an alien who comes to earth with a mysterious mission and sets about his job by amassing a fortune with the help of his species' advanced technology.

These early moments are brilliantly constructed, Roeg giving viewers just enough to piece together what's going on before moving on to the next scene. But once Bowie's character gets distracted from his mission by succumbing to the earthly desires of alcohol, s*x and tv, the movie loses all sense of pacing despite examining some intelligent themes in a non-cliched manner.

Had material for greatness but the results are a bit short.

5.5-6/10


The Ax (2005) - another disappointing film containing interesting ideas, Costa-Gavras' attempt at social satire is just not sharp enough or black enough to appropriately deal with its material. In fact, it has a fair bit of trouble finding the right tone throughout, clicking only in a handful of scenes that provide a glimpse of what could have been.

Jose Garcia plays a mid level manager who is fired from his job at a paper factory and has trouble getting another one due to fierce competition. Out of desperation, he determines that the best way to improve his chances is by literally eliminating his competition. Costa Gavras follows his attempt to get re-employed, feebly exploring the guilt and doubts Garcia's character encounters along the way.

5.5/10


Don�t Move (2004) - Penelope Cruz goes ugly in overwrought arty italian melodrama that has a number of strong scenes but some very implausible characterisations.

6/10


Appaloosa (2008) - decent, but unremarkable western with Ed Harris, Jeremy Irons and Viggo Mortensen. The last third is extremely good but the movie takes too long to establish its characters and relationships before getting to that point. Renee Zellewegger nearly ruins another movie despite having an interesting role but is thankfully kept out of most of the quality last act.

6.5/10


Watch on the Rhine (1943) - decent wartime melodrama which is a little too earnest in its message delivering but has strong performances from its cast, including Paul Lukas, Geraldine Fitzgerald and Bette Davis, and effective characterisations.

6-6.5/10 
State Of Play 
agreed. Stays mostly intelligent. And man, is Ben Affleck a bad actor. Seriously. Stop casting him. 
Given His Role In This 
I didnt mind him. 
1/2 Way Through Season 3 Of The Wire 
god its beautiful! 
HOME 
Movie for free, explains why M. Smith is right: Humans are the cancer of Earth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqxENMKaeCU 
 
Star Trek

Not a big fan of the original series of the show but this was great fun, and definitely worth a watch. Nothing too original though, and most of the screentime is dedicated to lens-flare.


Coraline

Brilliant animation based on a Neil Gaiman novella, directed by Henry Selick (of Nightmare before Christmas/James and the Giant Peach fame). Uses a blend of stop-frame and 3d animation and it looks beautiful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmD7R8LTk8o

Definitely has it's similarities to Alice in Wonderland, and it's got a real uneasiness and loneliness to it. They never resort to cheap jokes and cheesy quirkiness, and at the same time, don't go too far the other way and end up with any sort of Tim-Burton-gothic-ness to it.

As someone who hugely respects the art and craft of Pixar, I really think Coraline blows a lot of their films out of the water, in both the visuals and the storytelling. Can't recommend this enough. 
Cheers Starbuck 
I just ordered the dvd of Coraline, had my fingers crossed but I have uncrossed them now :) 
Coraline. 
On the list, word. Sounds nice. 
Hmm 
It has a talking cat, eye buttons and a mouse circus, what more can you ask for? 
Th3r'5 0/\/|Y 0/\/3 74|k1/\/G C47 |/\/ /\/\Y 800K 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDu7yYHxZr0

guess where else he's featured? 
Just Finished Marathon Sitting Of Wire S3 
where do they go from here?

rhetorical question btw, I dont want spoilers :) 
No Spoilers... 
...but season 4 is probably my favourite of the lot, so good stuff to come. Season 3 did seem like a shift in tone despite returning to some familiar characters. I felt like it moved from being "realistic" to "believable" in patches - if that makes sense, but what they did with Major Colvin was so interesting that it didn't bother me.

In one of the commentaries, David Simon says that the opening scene to each season is supposed to encapsulate the theme and message of what's to come. I can't say enough good stuff about the season 3 intro. The Mayor intercut with Bodie is great fun, as is seeing the demolition team pressing the real trigger after the plunger is sunk. But really, seeing those two towers come down like that, and then have it trigger a "war"...that's setting your sights high in terms of commentary. 
Preach 
agree that plot arcs and character arcs became a little more contrived but hard to really criticise when the rest is so good.

and I really should listen to the commentaries, completely missed that two towers reference. 
Terminator Salvation 
It's not very good. 
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