 Win10 Has Been Fine For Me.
#282 posted by Shambler on 2017/01/21 17:14:05
HTH.
#283 posted by Rick on 2017/01/21 17:48:03
Vista also worked fine for a lot of people.
 I Probably Should Be More Bothered
About windows 10 spying than I am. Most of the time I am not even thinking about it
 Is There A Compelling Reason
#285 posted by killpixel on 2017/01/21 20:40:00
to switch from, say, win7 to win10?
 DX12
#286 posted by mjb on 2017/01/21 23:35:07
I guess.
#287 posted by Rick on 2017/01/22 00:33:32
If you find a game that is DX12 only, or can use DX12 and is greatly improved by it, then Windows 10 is your only choice.
There are some non-game related improvements, but for me, those are far out-weighed by the many drawbacks. Microsoft has just gone too far into areas where no operating system belongs.
This is a polarizing issue, many people just don't care. The logic is often along the lines of "everybody does it", "that's just the way it is these days", etc. Some say "I have nothing to hide, my life is an open book" or some other such nonsense. I am firmly in the opposite camp, and if anyone has a choice and asks, then I will always recommend against Windows 10.
Of course, I am a grumpy old man, and get off my lawn is a way of life these days.
If you have any choice, then you should at least do a little research so that you know what you're getting into when you agree to Microsoft's privacy policy and service agreement.
 It's Pretty Funny...
#288 posted by damage_inc on 2017/01/22 00:45:28
That Microsoft basically released an OS that is clearly adware, malware, spyware and out-of-your-control-ware TRICKING millions into upgrading and yet... so many are complacent about this.
If things don't change, Win7 will be my last MS OS even if that means any future PC gaming, on Windows, is sacrificed.
And now they have it so if you want the newest CPU's from AMD and Intel, they to are tied to Win10. Linux is fine though.
 Oh And,
#289 posted by damage_inc on 2017/01/22 01:42:33
I didn't even mention about how they use your bandwidth to deliver updates to other PC's! This all should have been illegal on so many fronts, seriously.
Personal Computer, I think not. Not with Win10.
It's a huge breach of privacy and duty... which i'm guessing they are only allowed to do, because the win10 spyware is shared with the US government.
#291 posted by R00k on 2017/01/23 09:13:06
I have windows 10, and I use SpyBot Anti-Beacon which automatically turns off any telemetry in windows 10. I havent any issues otherwise, yet i occasionally get a *suggested notification on the start menu of apps to get from the app store. Meh, i'm a sheep. :|
 Windows 10 Is Going To Cause Another Lawsuit
#292 posted by PRITCHARD on 2017/01/23 09:56:06
Apparently Kaby Lake doesn't run Windows 7, for ***reasons***. I'm getting a new laptop soon, so hopefully I'll be able to prove that for myself. I'm hoping it'll at least run in a VM...
Seriously, the bigger your market share, the worse a company you become... Intel, Nvidia, Apple...
Microsoft was just always sketchy.
#293 posted by Rick on 2017/01/23 10:37:58
I don't really see how a 3rd party application would be able to prevent the OS from doing as it pleases, or how you would even know if it was actually working. It sounds good though.
 Spybot
#294 posted by PRITCHARD on 2017/01/23 10:43:38
Isn't spybot pretty much just a virus at this point? I thought it died, got resurrected as "2.0" and turned out to be utter trash. That's what google says, anyway.
 Antibeacon
#295 posted by xaGe on 2017/01/23 22:33:08
Works by turning off the telemetry settings via the Windows registry. Which Windows update can and does turn them back on whenever it sees fit.
A better solution is run Linux or Windows 7.
#296 posted by R00k on 2017/01/24 04:30:14
all u have to do each update is press a button to turn off/updae the settings.
Fear, its a penis that wants to take over your dick..
 What?
#297 posted by PRITCHARD on 2017/01/24 12:01:56
#298 posted by Rick on 2017/01/24 15:42:04
For some reason I find it hard to believe that changing a few settings actually stops Microsoft from spying and sniffing around in your system.
I figure those settings are mostly just for show. Something to give you a safe, cozy, secure feeling that you've thwarted their attempts to invade your privacy.
The reality is, once you install Windows 10, they own your computer, not you.
#299 posted by Joel B on 2017/01/24 19:31:49
If you're really worried that a software provider is doing things that they claim they are not doing and don't appear to be doing, then there's no way you'll ever be secure/happy with any desktop or phone OS. Except maybe a Linux distro that you build yourself.
if it really bothers you, then just make router rules to block external IPs you don't like.
#301 posted by mh on 2017/01/24 19:43:52
I dunno.
On the one hand we have a major software vendor being open about what they are and aren't doing, with US and EU legal officials watching ready to pounce, with national data protection legislation all over the world that has to be complied with, and with a huge revenue stream from licensing potentially under threat if they go too far.
On the other hand we have paranoid random dude ranting on the internet.
Which shall I believe? Decisions, decisions.
 @mh
#302 posted by damage_inc on 2017/01/24 20:35:47
Troll harder bro...
It's not paranoia when it's factual and TRUE!
Just one example, and NOT from some "random paranoid dude ranting on the internet"... gfy
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3073457/windows/how-microsofts-nasty-new-windows-10-pop-up-tricks-you-into-upgrading.html
Just because you accept it, doesn't mean it's correct. It just makes you complacent, as I stated above.
#303 posted by dwere on 2017/01/24 20:43:31
Technically, they didn't do anything illegal here.
#304 posted by Rick on 2017/01/25 02:00:46
I don't think anybody said what they do is illegal. As a matter of fact, you have to agree to let them do it before you can use Windows 10. They call it their "Service Agreement". It doesn't apply to just Windows either, it includes most of their other products and services.
I don't know the "paranoid random dude". I first heard of the issues from a Microsoft employee who said he personally wouldn't use Windows 10 because it made him feel uncomfortable. He didn't work in the OS division though, so what does he know?
Personally, I think it's one of those situations where it's better to be safe than sorry. Since there's no really good reason to use Windows 10 and many reasons to avoid it, that's what I've done.
Of course, as I said before, many people just don't care for one reason or another. That's fine, but I hope they actually read and understood but the Service Agreement and Privacy Policy that they agreed to first.
 I Think We All Know The Solution Here, Don't We?
#305 posted by PRITCHARD on 2017/01/25 02:07:11
Install Gentoo
 Well At Least M$
#306 posted by xaGe on 2017/01/31 20:53:05
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