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similar to advice Metl once gave me, the wooden post and the brown brick in http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/1153/grahfsp00wi6.jpg kind of fade in to one another because they are almost the same shade of brown. Lighten the wooden post tile and it should bring out its material properties better in contrast to the brick's dark bulky presence.
OK people, Ive made a six map mini episode using quoth. I have sent a copy to kell. So far I havent incorporated skyboxes (but will) and it probably needs a bit of tweaking here and there. I need some playtesting done, but dont want to host a final version online yet cause obviously its not finished. If anyone thinks theyre up for the job, then please email me and I will send you a copy, or leave your email address where I can see it on this messageboard and I will send you a copy. It uses a base theme mostly, lost of quoth demons on the later maps and kell's fury texture wad.
My address: trowbridge.richard@googlemail.com Jolly Good! I'm working on some new Q1 monsters, and so far all goes well. So I tried to get grip on the Q3 bones model, and it has touched me with its grey haze. Converting it to quake1 gave me a tough job, as animating frames all had to be concealed again. Made it some tougher, because it got rather thin, and then
Qmle showed up with a strange texture convertion, as well as a lot of vertice meshes, but that aside. I had the skin part right, but somehow a part of the texture keeps mirrored. I made three models now, but they all turn up with the same error. http://members.home.nl/gimli/bone0.jpg http://members.home.nl/gimli/bone1.jpg http://members.home.nl/gimli/bone2.jpg Anyone knows how to avoid this nasty habbit? Here are some screenshots of me maps:
http://shub-hub.com/files/images/DejaVu001.jpg http://shub-hub.com/files/images/DejaVu002.jpg http://shub-hub.com/files/images/DejaVu003.jpg http://shub-hub.com/files/images/DejaVu004.jpg http://shub-hub.com/files/images/DejaVu005.jpg I have now added skyboxes (evidently from the shots), and tinkered around with the ending a bit. But I wouldnt have said this version (which I'm not hosting yet) is final, cause it seems the more things I fix, the more problems I see. Took Three hours to compile the last map last night (Aargh!!!), and Ill prob end up doing it again tonight. Mail me if you wanna playtest the NEW beta! (new from yesterday, that is...) check your surface normals in whatever modelling app you started the model in (I'm assuming you didn't build all this in QME...), make sure they're all contiguous and none of them are reversed.
I've chequed all vertices. It seems to happen when I export the model to a dxf file.
I've had 14 verticemeshes in each frame, so I went all the 87 frames, untill I counted my dry bones. One perticular vertice seems to be the error. http://members.home.nl/gimli/bone3.jpg Is there a way in Qmle to make this surface triangle get back to its origin position? Because I can't controll the outcom of the dxf files my am2000 is transporting. I'm making a Q1 episode for speedrunning right now and designing it as fast as I can to avoid getting bogged down in details.
http://www.suspenlute.com/fr3nrun1 The Egyptian map should be done by next weekend. The obtex map is a pain in the ass. :( Yes, in QMe select the triangle tool and right click on the offending triangle to flip the way it faces. I've noticed that a few of your other models have also had this in places, although it's less plain to spot in them.
You although you can do it by right clicking and selecting the option from the menu, I actually meant to tell you the quick way, which is to hold ctrl and left click on the triangle in question. Much faster if you have more than one to do!
Possible I had this error in other models, but the reason was I didn't had your advice to solve it.
Sure it was easier than the vertice error! http://members.home.nl/gimli/bones.mpg Thanks! If you have access to max try using the STL check as well, its not easy to find but it basically finds all lost verticies, backward facing normals and open edges.
I haven't used it since max5 to be honest, but I doubt its been removed. For character models in Quake (ie. models without alpha polys) it was very useful. I've got max, but the program is so huge I never seem to get grip on it. Same as blender. I know both are programs with lots of efforts.
On this moment I can delete the triangles in Qmle, and adding a new one restores the original skin texture. In contrary there are also some that don't. Drawing straight on them also add the texture both on front and backside. I would hate to give the impression that the map is almost done by posting more shots. I do indeed have episodic intentions here, which I'll say more about when I have something to show for it.
The majority of the feedback I have gotten has concerned lighting contrast and texture variation. There are several other wooden plank textures in the RT_arbor set, which will vary up the grey wood, but I have't decided which to use yet. The lighting is only marginally better, but I added subtle color values, which I thought looked different and neat enough to show off some new angles: (taken in darkplaces) http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/8837/dp000000eb6.jpg http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/6975/dp000002li4.jpg http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9825/dp000003dx6.jpg http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4879/dp000001xl3.jpg http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8640/dp000006nb2.jpg Hate to be the nitpicking one again, but...
#1 Texture alignment on the grey cobblestones #2 Roofs normally look different from the inside. #3 Roof textures clipped off at 45 degrees. I guess the answer to #2 is to put some wooden beams on the inside of the roofs. The answer to #3 is: Don't build this style of roof then. I've had the same problem in another map. Hrimfaxi's new map has the same issue IIRC although it's less obvious. Look at some real roofs, those seams are always covered up there. Another concern, which is either very big or very small, depending on perspective, is: It doesn't resemble Quake anymore. :-) Also, it looks very much like a facade. If those windows were _real_ windows, that would be something else. It always bugged me in Thief that I would see the lit windows and hear people talking and laughing, but could never go inside and see them. It felt like a fake, which is what it was. Painted-on windows are problematic. Unless they are breakables with rooms behind them. Also, windows are normally set back into the wall a bit. Try using some more and different kinds of chimneys?
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