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Film Thread.
I thought a trio of themed threads about other entertainment media might be good. If you're not interested, please just ignore the thread and pick some threads that interest you from here: http://celephais.net/board/view_all_threads.php

Anyway, discuss films...
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Watch The Films 
Then tell me that re-making them isn't an insult.

<sarcasm> Films are always better when people who would be speaking Swedish are speaking English. </sarcasm>

Anyway, if Cowboys and Aliens was anything to go by with regards to that dick who plays the journalist, the remake of The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo will be garbage. 
The Irony! 
 
Not Worth It... 
 
Aww 
Since we on the topic of "foreign" movies, what kind of german movies do you guys know (and like)? Some random recommendations:


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Bang Boom Bang
Das Boot (obviously. the uncut one!)
Im Juli
Lammbock
Lola rennt
Schtonk!
Sonnenallee
Was nicht passt wird passend gemacht 
I've Only Seen A Few 
das boot
run lola run
goodbye lenin
the lives of others
downfall

...actually that's all i can think of. But they were all good, so I guess Germans only make good movies. 
 
Oooh, I forgot

Erbsen auf halb 6 
Metlslime 
two words: uwe boll ;) 
Girl With A Dragon With A Tattoo Of A Girl 
Only saw the United States approved Fincher version, and I thought it was rather good actually. Never saw the original. Daniel Craig and Rooney Mara are both splendid. Slightly drags a bit, but whatever. Got me reading the books.

As for remakes that actually pain me - Vanilla Sky is the textbook pointless remake. In most every way it's way worse, despite being copied scene-for-scene (as far as I remember). 
Well 
the problem is that the American movie industry is extremely risk-averse. That's why they put out so many remakes of foreign films, remakes of their own films from 10 years ago, sequels, prequels, and spinoffs. It's retarded, it's ridiculous, and I'll have no sympathy for any anti-piracy efforts of theirs until they actually start producing something good. If they produce something good I buy it. But usually they don't. I'm all for films with subtitles, I even think that what Mel Gibson did with Apocalypto was great, that is using subtitles. It certainly beats the American approach: "well, it's the past, or it's not here, so we'll just give everyone British accents - the British were before us right? and they're not here right?" dumbasses. 
 
it's not so much hollywood's fault, it's the people that go see the movies. people go see what they know and like, hollywood know that, so they have to stick with existing franchises. there's rarely anything completely new at the top of the box office because people don't know what it is, so they won't pay to see it. hollywood just plays it safe all the time.

i mean we all raved about the dark knight... but batman is probably one of the oldest and most rehashed ip's there is in hollywood. honestly, how many times do I really have to see batman vs joker. 
Sleepy 
yeah, my favorite tie in bit to the old movie was the clever inversion of the impact of the "get your paws off me..." line.

Spirit, cannot believe you typed that. Please tell me you were taking the piss.

Ricky, the argument about watching before slagging can be applied to the remake too. Now generally I agree remakes suck, but when the right people are involved, I dont mind. Daniel Craig is a weird choice but we both know these films are about Lisbeth and by all accounts, Rooney Mara is great, despite how good Noomi Rapace was.

Speaking of Noomi, also saw Sherlock Holmes 2. She is totally wasted in her english language debut. As for the movie, some fine character interaction but unfortunately not enough of it because Guy Ritchie cant keep his camera still and also feels the need to break up dialogue as soon as is possible. 
The Response To Spirit 
was directed at his Godfather 2 comment btw.

Also good german movies that havent been mentioned: The Counterfeiters and most of Fassbinder's older stuff. 
Fair Enough [Kona] 
it's not like I'm not looking forward to TDKR and Prometheus the most out of any movies coming out this year. But 2007 had No Country for Old Men, Assassination of Jesse James, There Will Be Blood, etc, all based on previous stories but still, there are sooo many good books that they could do adaptations of rather than remaking foreign films which I'd usually rather see with subtitles anyway. 
 
Actually I was considering book to movie adaptions as unoriginal as well. How often does Hollywood come up with a good BRAND new IP... not based on a comic, book, toy, cartoon, foreign movie, or previous movie?

Yup i'm looking forward to TDKR and Prometheus heaps as well!!! I don't mind Hollywood's unoriginality that much anyway. It bothers me more in the gaming market though, but then that's nowhere near as bad as Hollywood. And id made Rage. A new IP, holy shitballs. 
Girl With A Dragoooon 
I watched part of the original but turned it off because I couldn't stand it...

Not sure what makes the material into an international bestseller. 
 
In Time

stupid. felt like a random potpourri of single good scenes with bad filling. incoherent unconvincing setting. some scenes felt like theater.a lot of idiotic bullshit. pompous lines. time keeper guy look and moved silly. old time cars that make sounds like starship. nice music. huge disappointment. 
 
I forgot to add:

It is silly like Aeon Flux but without anything boner-inducing. Unless you like Justin Timberlake I guess. 
The Thing (2011) 
obviously doesn't top the 1982 movie but was actually a lot better than i'd expected following generally unfavourable review scores. stayed pretty faithful to its predecessor and although it felt kinda generic horror in places, that was kind of expected and for the most part forgivable. solid overall (if not exceptional) and probably above average as far as horror/monster movies go 
Re: Girl With Dragoon Tatooo 
Fincher is way past his prime, nothing he's done this decade holds up to any of his 90's films. I don't see what's all that impressive about this movie, or the storyline/material that's apparently such a success. SPOILERS the villain was ridiculous, like "I'm a nazi serial killer and I hate women!" It seemed over long and boring to me.

Saw Chronicle recently and thought they did a good job expressing this telekenesis concept and how it could be used... a good description of how human's can't be trusted with superpowers also. Some of the pranks (like the bear) they pull early on are funny, plus the found footage presentation works better than you'd expect, especially near the end with security cameras, bystanders filming, etc.

A Dangerous Method - has to be the tamest Cronenberg movie ever. Pretty good acting, but not much really happens. I guess that's what happens when you make a movie about academics (heh).

Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy - Apparently based on a really long novel, this seemed slow and tedious despite the fact that it apparently compresses a ton of story material. It doesn't really inform the reader what's going on - maybe I'd understand it better if I had paid close attention, but I wasn't really interested in paying close attention to all these ugly old british people mumbling in an almost colourless grainy cinematography style. John Hurt was awesome as always though, in the few scenes he did have: "It'll take us five hours to get drunk on this monkey's piss" and Oldman's monologue about Karla was good. 
Apologies In Advance For The Verbosity 
in time - meh
margin call - good
the ides of march - good
the help - very good
moneyball - great
drive - fucking awesome 
 
I started to watch Drive on the plane, but realized it deserved my full attention. Might watch in time on the way back though, seems like about the right level of dumb. 
Dangerous Method 
Yeah.

The whole Tim I just kept thinking like, there was a time when he'd just SHOW the big phallic mollusk on kiera knightley's back. And it would be a better film for it.gooe acting, but sadly Pretty underwhelming. 
 
In time

well yes, this was pretty dumb. Quite an interesting idea I guess, but it needed a story with the imagination of a Phillip K Dick, not a five year old.

Ides of march

also a bit disappointing really.
 
 
yay for trying to do formatting on a phone after a long flight. 
The Machinist. 
Why did I not see this already? Great film, really enjoyed it. Actually kept me guessing the whole way and the ending was spot on. 
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