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Film Thread.
I thought a trio of themed threads about other entertainment media might be good. If you're not interested, please just ignore the thread and pick some threads that interest you from here: http://celephais.net/board/view_all_threads.php

Anyway, discuss films...
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Actually I was considering book to movie adaptions as unoriginal as well. How often does Hollywood come up with a good BRAND new IP... not based on a comic, book, toy, cartoon, foreign movie, or previous movie?

Yup i'm looking forward to TDKR and Prometheus heaps as well!!! I don't mind Hollywood's unoriginality that much anyway. It bothers me more in the gaming market though, but then that's nowhere near as bad as Hollywood. And id made Rage. A new IP, holy shitballs. 
Girl With A Dragoooon 
I watched part of the original but turned it off because I couldn't stand it...

Not sure what makes the material into an international bestseller. 
 
In Time

stupid. felt like a random potpourri of single good scenes with bad filling. incoherent unconvincing setting. some scenes felt like theater.a lot of idiotic bullshit. pompous lines. time keeper guy look and moved silly. old time cars that make sounds like starship. nice music. huge disappointment. 
 
I forgot to add:

It is silly like Aeon Flux but without anything boner-inducing. Unless you like Justin Timberlake I guess. 
The Thing (2011) 
obviously doesn't top the 1982 movie but was actually a lot better than i'd expected following generally unfavourable review scores. stayed pretty faithful to its predecessor and although it felt kinda generic horror in places, that was kind of expected and for the most part forgivable. solid overall (if not exceptional) and probably above average as far as horror/monster movies go 
Re: Girl With Dragoon Tatooo 
Fincher is way past his prime, nothing he's done this decade holds up to any of his 90's films. I don't see what's all that impressive about this movie, or the storyline/material that's apparently such a success. SPOILERS the villain was ridiculous, like "I'm a nazi serial killer and I hate women!" It seemed over long and boring to me.

Saw Chronicle recently and thought they did a good job expressing this telekenesis concept and how it could be used... a good description of how human's can't be trusted with superpowers also. Some of the pranks (like the bear) they pull early on are funny, plus the found footage presentation works better than you'd expect, especially near the end with security cameras, bystanders filming, etc.

A Dangerous Method - has to be the tamest Cronenberg movie ever. Pretty good acting, but not much really happens. I guess that's what happens when you make a movie about academics (heh).

Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy - Apparently based on a really long novel, this seemed slow and tedious despite the fact that it apparently compresses a ton of story material. It doesn't really inform the reader what's going on - maybe I'd understand it better if I had paid close attention, but I wasn't really interested in paying close attention to all these ugly old british people mumbling in an almost colourless grainy cinematography style. John Hurt was awesome as always though, in the few scenes he did have: "It'll take us five hours to get drunk on this monkey's piss" and Oldman's monologue about Karla was good. 
Apologies In Advance For The Verbosity 
in time - meh
margin call - good
the ides of march - good
the help - very good
moneyball - great
drive - fucking awesome 
 
I started to watch Drive on the plane, but realized it deserved my full attention. Might watch in time on the way back though, seems like about the right level of dumb. 
Dangerous Method 
Yeah.

The whole Tim I just kept thinking like, there was a time when he'd just SHOW the big phallic mollusk on kiera knightley's back. And it would be a better film for it.gooe acting, but sadly Pretty underwhelming. 
 
In time

well yes, this was pretty dumb. Quite an interesting idea I guess, but it needed a story with the imagination of a Phillip K Dick, not a five year old.

Ides of march

also a bit disappointing really.
 
 
yay for trying to do formatting on a phone after a long flight. 
The Machinist. 
Why did I not see this already? Great film, really enjoyed it. Actually kept me guessing the whole way and the ending was spot on. 
Yeah 
Bale was really on his way up at that point. He's still good now just not as good. My one problem with that movie is the whole "delusional/coming to terms with" genre - the movie itself is quite good, BUT movies like that tend to annoy me. 
Tronyn 
dude, Social Network matched any of his 90's stuff. But yeah its probably the only one. 
Heh 
actually the only one of his 2000's films I haven't seen, but I'm going to watch it soon, it did look good. I liked Zodiac, but it was nowhere near his 90's stuff, especially since he was clearly trying to market it as a semi-sequel to Se7en (ie Fincher returns to serial killer genre, sort of like Scott returns to scifi genre with Prometheus). 
 
Donnie Brasco (1997)

Not bad at all but the Donnie did not feel natural/realistic at all to me. 
 
Drive (2011?)
fantastic for the first half or so but then it gets very fucking disgustingly GOREy. ruined it all for me and my friends. shame.
the style was dangerously close to, the.music was terribly pretentious at times (the human/hero song? geez...). but mostly the style and music and everything was so nice. why the fuck would anyone want to see a head blasted off, a head stomped and cracked and so on. beware. 
 
You really shouldn't watch movies that are not meant for children of your age. 
Spirit 
LOL, do you even check what you decide to watch beforehand? 
 
negke: wat.
nitin: how? 
At Least Check The Rating 
if violence etc is not to your liking.

eg Drive is Rated R for strong brutal bloody violence, language and some nudity. 
 
spirit's average movie night http://i.imgur.com/1YrIG.jpg 
He's At It Again 
Choosing movies at random, then complaining he doesn't like them. Spirit, choose something that you might like! You had a good run a couple weeks ago, why is it back to this now? 
Negke 
lol 
To Be Honest 
I had some similar issues with the movie. I enjoy violence and gore, and not only like, "when it suits the story" etc - but I left the theatre feeling oddly ambivalent about the cinematic experience I'd just gone through.
I have decided that I really like the movie.

However, I will contend that if the violence had been toned down - just a SMIDGEON - it would have been more effective.

*************SPOILER ALERT*************************

for example, the most effective moment of violence for me was when Malcom in the Middle's dad got Albert Brooksed. That was perfect and disturbing.

When that first moment of ultraviolence occurs, with the bursting heads etc, I was laughing a bit.

It does have that effect though of balancing or perhaps veering vertigiously between ridiculous funny 'action movie violence' or something not completely unlike it and deeply disturbing violence that you feel in your stomach. 
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