 Shambler
#4838 posted by Tronyn on 2012/09/14 08:17:25
hate!
hate
but you already know what is resented: the ambition to make money off of previous money, as opposed to, you know, make money by adopting a PKD story.
PKD was a genius and there's an endless ton of his shit around waiting to be adapted. Fuck you hollywood, and et cetera and so forth.
 Yee
#4839 posted by Tronyn on 2012/09/14 08:18:56
ok that was obviously extreme, I am just pissed off. There's so much out there, in terms of thought, including PKD. Yet what we get, is what we actually fucking get.
 Alright
#4840 posted by Tronyn on 2012/09/14 08:25:36
alright, alright now I'm calm
I just wish someone would adopt "A Little Something For Us Tempunauts" and fuck with all our heads FINALLY. lol. alright. damn.
#4841 posted by [Kona] on 2012/09/14 08:33:51
why don't you tell us how you really feel tronyn? lol
i don't mind remakes or reboots. gives us the chance to see a great movie in a different light. it's like a song remix. it's just that a lot of the time they fuck them up.
i watched rise of the planet of the apes a couple weeks ago, that was a worthy reboot.
 Arg
#4842 posted by Tronyn on 2012/09/14 10:04:53
sorry to keep being an ass, but like.. dude in the 70's everything wasn't a remake indeed corporations had less of a stranglehold on our lives than they have now and also indeed the output was correspondingly different. Name me a STAR WARS 51.2.formulaic. THE PREQUEL from the 70s. At least in the 80s they had to keep to straight sequels. I love the Nolan Batman trilogy, but he legitimized the attitude, "fuck however much we fuced this up in the past, we can now just ignore that!"
Hate.
Hate!
 Ehhhhh...
#4843 posted by Shambler on 2012/09/14 10:57:34
Well I enjoyed watching a good sci-fi action film anyway.
#4844 posted by Spirit on 2012/09/14 11:33:06
tronyn, calm down. star wars is totally build upon other works (not fucking with a franchise/name/work though). see the "everything is a remix" series.
shambler: is it like remakequake?
 Remakes Are Fine
#4845 posted by nitin on 2012/09/14 11:58:51
shit remakes are not.
Also, Star Wars argument is flawed, Tronyn is not saying there should not be remakes, more that every film released nowadays should not be a remake.
 Spirit
#4846 posted by ijed on 2012/09/14 12:09:37
As opposed to being like Quaddicted?
I'm on the side of everything is a remake to some extent and only quality matters. Well made things add to the mythology or concepts they're based on, badly made ones feed off them.
Even the most original stuff, like Portal is based on previously broken ground.
 Alternatively...
#4847 posted by ijed on 2012/09/14 12:10:48
HATE!
;)
 I Expressed Myself In A Rather Crappy Way, For Sure
#4848 posted by Tronyn on 2012/09/14 12:31:00
I actually have very little interest in Star Wars at its best, and think it's kids' stuff and fairytale bullshit.
What I was trying to say, and horribly failed at saying, was the original property of it, I can respect. If I strain myself enough maaaybe I could respect the original property of Twilight simply because it was an original (in the legal, can-withstand-lawsuits sense) property. I just feel like post-2000, something has gone wrong as hell which has made the mainstream movie business the devil's whore.
On the other hand while I did recently argue that the world is so fucked up that not reproducing is logical (lol and I still believe that), I can still say, TV has gotten so much better post-2000 that every movie could be complete garbage and it would still be a net gain from my point of view.
Anyway. I will try, again, to calm down.
 PS
#4849 posted by Tronyn on 2012/09/14 12:39:05
Thanks, Nitin. You're so reasonable, and you know so much about film (btw I have now watched enough Argentio films to know that the pattern does not change), but I do have cheesy views about the idealism of art. I wasn't even born in the 70's yet, and I don't want a cheesy 70's revival, I just want the spirit of creativity from the 70's to come back. Bah. Whatever that's enough. The atmosphere is still clear enough, to see.
 Alternatively...
#4850 posted by ijed on 2012/09/14 12:54:08
HATE!
;)
 Tronyn
#4851 posted by nitin on 2012/09/14 13:07:27
to help you calm down, out of my recent viewings I would recommend The Fall (2006).
Also Ides of March is a decent watch. And Julia's Eyes.
But if you really want to see something special, make some time for Once Upon a Time in Anatolia.
 Tronyn
#4852 posted by nitin on 2012/09/14 13:07:35
to help you calm down, out of my recent viewings I would recommend The Fall (2006).
Also Ides of March is a decent watch. And Julia's Eyes.
But if you really want to see something special, make some time for Once Upon a Time in Anatolia.
 That Last Post Was A Reboot.
#4853 posted by nitin on 2012/09/14 13:07:57
 The First One Was Better
#4854 posted by ijed on 2012/09/14 15:07:52
 Hater
#4855 posted by Nitin on 2012/09/14 15:17:53
#4856 posted by necros on 2012/09/14 23:32:27
Sometimes it seems like reboots are really just using the title or a previous movie to rope in an audience and make it an easier sell to a studio.
Then the director and such try to tell their own story within the confines of the reboot.
#4857 posted by [Kona] on 2012/09/14 23:33:58
Yeah The Fall is a great film. Hard to find though. There is still originality around though.
Anyone seen The Nines with Ryan Reynolds? Can't say I've ever seen a movie with a plot like this
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0810988/
Deserves better than 6.5.
I was thinking the other day, sure there's a lack of originality in Hollywood, but average movies are still watchable. Go back to the 60's, 70's and 80's and average films were a lot worse than they are now. There are way more decent'ish movies to watch now than in decades previous. That's my opinion anyway.
 IMHO That Is Absolutely Not True
#4858 posted by nitin on 2012/09/15 02:45:36
The 70's in particular is a goldmine of quality.
 Also A Couple Of Lists I Did For Some Friends
#4859 posted by nitin on 2012/09/15 02:49:57
moved to IMDB's list feature.
The movie one still has about 300 more to add when I get the time. I intend to update both as I watch more stuff, but who knows how that will go.
http://www.imdb.com/list/eaf_lvQ5NWE/
http://www.imdb.com/list/tRA4ZACG66o/
 Nitin
#4860 posted by [Kona] on 2012/09/15 13:43:52
I guess it depends what you're looking for in a movie. You seem to like a good script and are quite a big fan of all the older stuff. A look at your list and there's only 11 films you recommend in your top 100 from the last 12 years in the 2000s. I've seen 53 films from your list, btw.
My personal favourite 4 movies are ALL post 2000 (I won't mention them because you'll laugh lol, none are even in your top 100). I tend to like atmosphere and a good score.
By the way speaking of atmosphere, anyone seen Eden Log? Excellent, dark (like The Descent dark), horror/sci-fi.
 Kona
#4861 posted by nitin on 2012/09/15 15:31:01
yeah its all personal preference obviously, so post your 4 already :)
Also, that isnt really meant to be a top list, it sort of is in its current state of 297 titles, but there's another 300 or so I need to add and there is no way I could sensibly rank those.
 Koner
#4862 posted by negke on 2012/09/15 19:36:21
Saw it and even posted about it here. Basically it seemed like an okay indie film with an interesting simplistic/dirty style, but it was somewhat spoiled for me, because I had to watch a poorly dubbed version which seemed to highlight the movie's shortcomings and made it feel cheaper than it probabably would have otherwise. Will need to rewatch it some time.
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