Stand alone version is still supposed to come out in August. 

Out of extreme boredom I'm replaying this, as my copy of Madness Returns hasn't arrived yet. The levels are pretty crude, the Q3 engine obviously wasn't used to its fullest potential. Then again, okay 11 years ago and target specs... The chess castle levels, however, are awesome. Love the theme/style. I so hope I'll get to do my ever-imagined b/w abstract map some time... 

Finally got around to playing this and I enjoyed them immensely. Game generally 'feels' so right and smooth both visually and with combat, just like it did during Singularity for me. The mech sections were neat and I loved how you're not exactly forced to use it. One hatred I have for games is forced vehicle and turret sections. Unfortunately, this has a couple of turret segments, but they're very spread out. What makes these annoying (on Hard) is the inability to defend yourself other than being quick, kinda gets old repeating this segment several times just to get through it. I'd prefer them to be optional. As for the levels, I adored the first location with all the modern architecture and design going on. There tends to be a lot of underground stuff, ruined cities areas and levels which drag out a specific theme for some time - but I didn't exactly get bored either. The DLC isn't too bad, more of the same in a few different locations and also remained a good romp.

Now I'm tempted to grab Fear 3. 

I thought Alice was Q2-based. 

Based on the fakk heavy metal engine. 

Is the FAKK engine anything like the Q3 engine? 

The FAKK engine IS the Q3 engine. 

fakk is q3 but also has extra stuff, i think for model animation. i think it used md4 skeletal animation that was present in q3a, but not used. 

Yeah, FAKK was Q3A + �berTools

http://www.ritualistic.com/content.php/games/uber/features.php 

Speaking of q3 engined games, did anyone ever buy the full version of Dark Salvation? http://www.darksalvation.com/index2.html

I remember the demo being shit, but it might be an ok game. 

http://www.darksalvation.com/order.html 

wow it is too. 6 months ago they were still charging for the digital version. guess no one was buying it. looks like i'll play it at some stage then :) 

Downloaded it and found the first level is the same as the old demo, which was too hard to finish. You need to bunnyhop to get through the first door in time, then in the next room a misplaced jump send you back to the start of the level because there's no quicksave or autosave, and back to the fucked up bunnyhop room. Both rooms of which looked like utter shit. I'd have thought they would have fixed this after the demo.

I wonder if anyone on earth has actually completed this game, apart from the guys who made it.

Just played Call of the Fireflies for Crysis which had cool puzzles. Proper puzzles like those = good. Bunnyhopping onto platforms = shit.

If the first level is this bad, and the intro was the worst i've ever seen, then this is probably the shittiest FPS ever made. Despite the cool gothic look. 

Gameplay is seriously problematic. Not worth the time. 

if there was a save, it sounds like it would have been at least decent... 

Hopefully another nice full mod in the vein of Nehrim :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoTFPoAjTq4&feature=player_embedded
Hopefully for them (and me :D) they can release it before Skyrim. 

Oh nice there will be an English version!! Not only do I need to play Nehrim but I also need to FINISH Oblivion, and also play through Morrowind. 

That looks nice! And I haven't even got around to Nehrim yet which I've been planning to. Brings back the feeling of Morrowind to Oblivion, especially with the Dwemer ruins. I should reinstall Oblivion ASAP. Keeping my eyes on this. 

the best place to dl Q2SP maps? Like Spogsp, for example. 

and also play through Morrowind.

even to this day, i still have better memories of morrowind than oblivion. 

Drew, I'd visit http://tenfourmaps.telefragged.com/php/main.php

Can't think of anywhere else that still lists Q2.

Or even try my site on this page: http://www.electricescape.com/etherealhell/ratings/quake2.php

This has a list of most Q2SP maps worth playing, but the links could be outdated now. 

not on my real comp now but pretty sure the 104 ones are non funcitonal? 

use 10-4 for reiews, this might help for downloads.

http://www.gamers.org/pub/idgames2/planetquake/ 

spogsp1 is in the spog directory. 

I downloaded R1Q2 because the regular engine does not work on windows 7, apparently. It seems that it's sp only though. Am I wrong there? Any reccomendations for alternative engines? What is the fitzquake of Q2?

And for that matter, what is the fitz of Hexen 2?