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I thought a trio of themed threads about other entertainment media might be good. If you're not interested, please just ignore the thread and pick some threads that interest you from here: http://celephais.net/board/view_all_threads.php

Anyway, discuss films...
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Yeah mate I didn't mind it. It was a bit slow at first, but once the other side (the realm) came into it and dad had to go over to the other side, that's when I really liked it. I love supernatural horror movies so it fit exactly what I like.

Was this the one where the mum was in the kitchen and she turned around and all the chairs were stacked up? God that gave me goosebumps.

There's better horrors out there - Poltergeist obviously. But it's decent. 
Yeah I Think That Scene Is In There 
or at least a scene where she turns around and books are in bookshelves. 
 
Chairs all stacked up is from poltergeist. 
 
Two horrible movies:

Horrible Bosses, don't watch unless you like 3 obnoxious fucks talk angry nonsense at the same time while filler music plays in the foreground.

Red Tails, don't watch unless you consider a script written by a highschool drama class great literature or if you have negative knowledge of how planes work. 
 
Hm, I've had quite the bad luck recently. Caught a bit of Red Dragon on TV and will watch that soonish. Seemed very good. 
Cloud Atlas 
anyone seen it?

it's probably my favourite film of the past 12 months but i can see it being one that divides opinion, so am interested to read people's thoughts on it.

and nitin, you're not the only one who thought insidious was shit. it felt like someone's college project! 
Havent Seen Cloud Atlas 
but I have seen:

Django Unchained - some good bits but seriously Tarantino needs an editor, this and Inglorious Basterds are so bloated its not funny. More about Brumhilda and less shenanigans with aussie accented dumbasses would have maybe made me care about the whole thing. (My horse) Fritz stole the show.

John Carter - also has some good bits but who the hell thought it was a good idea to cast Taylor Kitsch in the lead role. He looks and sounds nothing like a civil war veteran should. Also, the plot is compleltely nonsensical, but there is some good visuals here.

Zero Dark Thirty - really well acted by Jessica Chastain which overcomes some of the other problems, namely a bit of a chaotic screenplay and non existant secondary characters. Last hr or so is also spectacularly well made.

Red - oh dear, and I see there is a sequel too. Not funny enough, not actiony enough, just a very very average action film but with different stars than usual. 
Holy Fuck 
zero dark thirty is pro-torture, religious and unlimited celebrating the military/cia. I was disgusted as it went on without showing no sign of criticism. 
Heh 
less sober but it's hard not to agree that it is difficult or at least eccentric to judge what is essentially a piece of propaganda (and, despite being a generally angry person I'm disturbed by how such revenge fantasies can be so "feel good") by solely aesthetic standards as a work of art.

Django Unchained - Apparently I am the PC brigade tonight, but I really felt like Tarantino trivialized (and probably could not help but do so) the subject.

Now to be most annoying of all, I predictably liked Man of Steel. 
Clarification 
I meant "solely by aesthetic standards, as a work of art" as opposed to "completely, ie by ethical, aesthetic and intellectual standards." 
Django Unchained 
trivialised slavery?

It's one of the few films that showed the true nature of slavery. Whippings, brutal murders, hot box torture, lynchings, mutilation...

Yeah it was also very stylised in the tarantino way, but it was certainly not light viewing. 
ZDT 
it was never going to be critical of the CIA expressly, but I cant exactly say it came across to me as pro-CIA/torture/war on terror. It almost showed the whole thing coming together because of luck and one person's disturbing single mindedness rather than because anything valuable was obtained by CIA brilliance or through the use of torture.

Also, Man of Steel, I will agree with the guys above. First 70 min are pretty decent and then the whole introspective mood is smashed to bits by totalling the whole city over and over. If you are going to setup the whole character as one struggling with choice and then finally having him make the choice to side with humans/earth, at least make him try to save some or think before he smashes the next building. 
 
I have seen Man of Steel yet, but it's superman... it's a comic movie, there's no way I'm not going to like it. 
The Thick Of It 
Great little comedy. Peter Capaldi as Shambler absolutely kills it. 
Pacific Rim. 
Cool in places, cheesy in other places. The whole set-up and concept was a fun mixture of epic and ridiculous, but some aspects could have been explored further - "DRift" gimmick was only well used a couple of times (e.g. chinese burd's flashback). Lead character was a turd and any human aspect involving him was dire, the further away one got from him the better.

Giant monster apocalypse = great
Giant robots fighting back = silly but fun
Human issues controlling robots = neat but wasted - needed more exploration
Human drama = putrid cheese 
Blah Blah 
Oblivion

Despite it's 'Hollywoodisms' and plot holes it's actually a pretty original scifi flick. The visuals are nice, they actually used old fashioned back projection to great effect.

(it's roughly something like Moon meets Independence Day meets Terminator... or something like that)

Oh yeah, it's got Cruise and Freeman parodying themselves as usual, but whatever...

Pacific Rim

It's a movie about giant robots fighting giant monsters. That's all it is, so if you like that, good, if not, bad. Not enough chicks though. I agree with Shambler. My fav part was when they used 'the sword' for the first time, so bad it was good :) The Russians didn't get enough screen time. The bad guys have the same issue as the ones in Avengers, their origin story is completely absent which makes it all very one dimensional. They have no other reason to be there than being pure evil incarnated. 
Elysium (slight Spoilers?) 
I liked it, but Matt Damon was the worst choice for the main character, this would have been an ideal chance to have a young black or latino lead actor in a major action blockbuster, especially because the scenario is clearly modeled on America and those are the groups they are getting screwed, not photogenic white boys like Damon. So bad choice for the lead. The director, however, remains awesome, his vision of a junk-heap ghetto future in this movie and District 9 is visually compelling and unique, and also the design for Elysium itself was similarly beautiful. Favourite part was seeing all these rich people in a manicured golf club type environment panic as a busted up, Firefly-esque spaceship full of illegal immigrants and criminals crashes into a mansion. lol.

Pacific Rim:
Really? When will the director get the chance to do a mature project? He showed so much promise with Pan's Labryinth and you'd think his success would give him some independence, but the studios treat him as their bitch as if he's not good for anything more than visual design and CGI.
Also, can't Idris Elba be given better roles? Overall I thought this movie was a waste of talent, except the lead actor, who has none. 
Tronyn 
Del Toro wanted to make Pacific Rim, it was his choice and a pet project AFAIK. 
Re: Pacific Rim (PR) 
Maybe I'm just bitter about his failure after 15 years of trying, to get At the Mountains of Madness (AtMoM) made. I see a contradiction between the likes of PR, and Pan's Labryinth (PL) or AtMom. I don't see the difference between PR and Transformers, and I hope we all hate Michael Bay (though he's not the worst). To me, PL is based on sophisticated adult reflections on childhood, fairytales, disillusionment, etc. There's nothing in PR Michael Bay couldn't have done, and man am I disappointed in Del Toro's direction. He had the potential to be a great director and you're telling me he is voluntarily choosing to play with action figures. Sigh. 
Havetn Seen PR So Cant Comment On That 
but have you seen Devil's Backbone? That's a good one from him. 
 
it's roughly something like Moon meets Independence Day meets Terminator... or something like that

my thought was moon meets portal!

went in with low expectations, left reasonably satisfied 
More On Oblivion 
actually the more i think about it, the more i realise it borrowed quite a few key plot points from elsewhere... (MASSIVE SPOILERS AHEAD)

1. a male and female protagonist pair are presented to reside in a clean, airy, futuristic home above the ocean, years after a reported apocalypse-type event, with the hope that one day they will leave for a faraway place to join the rest of humankind (the island)

2. the main character suffers flashbacks in the form of dreams, which are eventually explained as remnants of a past life before his memory was wiped, and hold clues to the story (total recall)

3. the characters are told to stay out of marked no-go areas for health/safety reasons, when the areas actually hold secrets key to the plot, and a twist for the viewer (the village)

4. as part of the twist, the main character realises he is merely a clone with implanted memories, farmed for work purposes (moon)

5. the woman giving orders and promising a happy ending starts out helpful and friendly, but gradually turns more robotic and malevolent, and is revealed to be an evil piece of artificial intelligence with a single, glowing eye, residing above the floor in a huge metallic chamber where the protagonist eventually defeats her/it (portal)

6. after a surprising switch, the main character sacrifices his life by blowing up the huge celestial object on which he resides in order to save mankind and ensure a happy life for the woman he loves (armageddon)

also, why did the scavs dress themselves up to look like aliens? (or should that be predators...) 
Tronyn. 
On the money about stuff there. The hispanic styling of Matt Damon's buddies was far more charismatic than he was.

Del Toro....yeah I dunno what he was thinking. As well as PL and DB, The Orphanage is bloody great, even if I did watch most of it from behind a sofa! 
 
Orphanage didn't hold up as well for me on later viewings, but I really enjoyed it the 1st time around. Think I mentioned that years ago in here... 
Not A Huge Fan Of Orphanage 
but I did like Julia's Eyes in terms of spanish horror/thrillers. 
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