very flat and plain. 

The build quality is there (I mean there aren't weird assortments of odd-shaped brushes), but there isn't much of anything there. The walls are exceedingly flat. You've put in a few cool touches (damaged bits, wires, and artificial colored lighting from the slime), but those aren't doing much for the overall detail level. Comparing this to Ph8DM1, I know you can do better.

Sorry to be harsh, but that's the way it is. 

theres so much detail and variation you can do with idbase. no need to keep the same wall texture over the whole map. plenty of 'detail' textures that can be used like comps and stuff, that lend themselves to their own brushes rather than being wall decoration

take some time and play older idbase sp/dm maps and apply some of what you see to your map.


and dont forget CRATES 

"Sorry to be harsh, but that's the way it is."
No thats quite fine, I've actually been asking around what I should do... the map is going *somewhere* (up), but I don't know how yet.

Thanks!

(BTW, there are some crates ;) ) 

apart from visuals, I also meant that the layout looked very flat. 

this time with light. doing the whole map with 0 minlight, meaning i'll have to pay that much more attention to make sure it works properly. mostly a learning experience...

http://www.planetquake.com/necros/levels/lend/lend1.jpg 

really nice... more time-consuming of course, but with results like that who can argue 

very nice. 

I really like that. 

Either that lava texture is too bright or there isn't enough falloff on the light that comes off of it. It looks like the surrounding area should be alot brighter than it is. I'd personally replace it with water actually to fit with the overall gloomy style.

Save that though, it looks very good. 

it might look better if the lava generated coloured light 

http://www.amightywind.com/hell/citizenhell.htm 

Or you could modify the tex that borders it to have a "glow" effect. 

well... for color, at this moment, that would be no. mainly because aguire's light doesn't do color atm.
(but also a bit because i'm not very good with color)
if aguire puts in colored light support, i'll try it out.

i actually like the idea of making a texture for the lava light. thx phait. i'll try my hand in photoshop and see what i can come up with. i just hope i have enough room left in the bsp for more textures. :P 

Take a vibrant orange color, make a gradient of transparent-to-orange, drag that down about half-way or in a 4th of the texture's height.. make this on a new layer, experiment with layer modes. 

I did it on these tex's around the slime: http://www.angelfire.com/scary/ph8accompli/quake/ph8dm2a.jpg 

non of you links work for me :( 

Not sure what to say, Gib. 

i tried something like you said, Phait.
can't say it looked very good. oranges aren't done well in the quake palette, and the vibrant orange i mixed into the stone and rock textures ended up looking really ugly in game. it was a nice idea, but doesn't work for lava i think. thx anyway 

Let me see the tex... or select an orange straight from Quake's palette. I really don't see why it can't be done alright, unless the orange turned out looking like idbase orange. 

...map, Lilith I think. 

yes it's done there, but not that smoothly if you use fitzquake. the prob is in fillbright pixels... 

clearly the work of capitalist scum 

But I think the lava should be darker. It would fit in better, to me, and would help alleviate the lighting problem some. I think I may have gotten this texture from evil_lair or something like that. Can't remember, but I think the darkness of the lava would work well in your map (although may not transfer to q1 well):

http://www.notthisway.com/temp/lava.jpg 

You can easily remove fullbrights though..