It sounds like the author hasn't even played each game enough to judge each properly. The sound bit he called a tie, he must not of played either game. Are you kidding me, Doom 3 pretty much owns the sound arena. This isn't a light read, its a retard read for those who refuse to be informed. Give me a fucking break. If someone is going to give a comparison between the engine, it should be on fact and capability, not what someone assumes.

This is a shit ass article. 

the guy seemd to be comparing notes - what I inferred from some bits was that he was simply refering to a list of technical specifications, not expressing an opinion formulated from personal experience of gameplay.
Check his credits at the bottom - I suspect his main motivation for writing this article was a little self-promotion. 

the way you mention it in d3 sounds like it would be all manual work and you'd have to animate the expressions yourself?

Doom3's animation is frame by frame joint positioning/rotation - that's all that's in the md5anim files.

Those are generated, however, from Maya scene files, so you can go about creating those skeletal animations however you want. Maya's got this nifty thing called the Maya Embedded Language that lets you script all kinds of operations - two weeks ago I created a MEL system that gives the user savable-pose control on a joint-rigged face, and I've been working on animating character faces for Byzantine since then. 

I haven't actually played hl2 and only half of d3... byt my impression is that hl2/source seems more suitable for most mod projects engine wise but on the other it seems to be much nastier to work with compared to doom 3. The tools and open file formats of d3 seems much more developer friendly to me than what valve is offering - something I think is at least as important as the engine capabilities. 

thanks for explaining the process. :)
that sounds fine then. i wasn't sure how the model animations were handled in d3 but since you can use whatever 3d modelling program you want to create them, it looks fairly limitless.

back on Hl2 vs d3, there are things that i don't really like about hl2... for example, there appears to be a wierd problem with shadows such that you need to put it brushes in certain areas to stop shadows from being cast on the underside of walls and such...
apparently, that's because the shadow code is a sort of hack? (as opposed to d3 which i haven't seen need any of these no shadow brushes) 

have a few days before I return from Egypt to try out all the mapping goodness being released but I thought I'd browse func since I have a lot of spare time ATM.

Someone said something about reference pics (I think it was Lunaran), dont know if they were serious or not but I have been rather snap happy over here. I have a whole bucketload of photos (and 90% of them are of stuff rather than of people) so if anyone wants to have a look, send me an email.

The only thing to bear in mind are that I'm not an expert photographer and they wernt really intended as refernce photos, just photos of stuff that I thought looked cool. Also, they are all 1600*1200 jpg images ATM and as such are very big. Of course, it means theres lots of detail but it might pose some problems in getting them to anyone interested.

Anyway, cant wait to get back and try out some of the mappage released, maybe a few more releases might pop up befor ethen too. HINT HINT. 

I'm interested in those pics... =)
Gimme. 

I suprised that article didn't just come out and say 'durr... hl2 is better cuz it's got a female character in it. d3 obviously can't handle breasts so it fails this engine comparison. COUNTERSTRIKE!' 

You are an elitist fuckwad, fuck you for banning me. 

please leave #tf problems off func_msgboard. 

Please take your abuse of power and elitism out of #tf 

about the abuse of power. Elitism is opinion and so is fine, but unnecessary bannings are quite immature. Kicks are one thing, bans are something else entirely. 

banning looks like the satisfaction of the childish inferiority complex....
i.e. lame 

Particularly since Phait has been showing some promising mappage recently, now is the time to be especially welcoming. 

Childish foot-stamping on the part of particular channel owners was why I first stopped hanging out in there. 

But I still need 3 beta testers for this 2nd phase, if anyone is interested. 

once you get your QW client and an address sorted, gimme a shout 

Childish foot-stamping on the part of particular channel owners is the reason why I almost stopped hanging out in there.

But I missed Von so I always went back. :( 

It is the reason why i stopped hanging out there too. 

It's the reason scampie is going to be the godfather to all my children 

You are an elitist fuckwad, fuck you for banning me.

keep your whining off my front porch, annoying kid. *shakes cane in air, dribbles a little onto plaid blanket*

Particularly since Phait has been showing some promising mappage recently, now is the time to be especially welcoming.

Without being privvy to whatever caused these two to start kicking sand in eachother faces, I'd say that being an idiot savant is no excuse for acting like an idiot. Personally, I wouldn't care if it was Jesus himself releasing little binary space trees of joy unto the internet -- fucker pisses on the floor, he's out of here.

Other than that, carry on. I'll get the popcorn. 

It's stupid. 

and poor old Kiltron has gone and stuck his foot in it, and after his recent goings on, with spitting the dummy, and vowing never to use id tech again, well........

The tools and open file formats of d3 seems........
Some Unreal people, (well perhaps not Unreal people, but people from Unreal) have been bitching about how retarded Doom3 file formats are, and the fact that you still have to do things through config files etc, etc, they seem to think you have to have a degree in Computer Science to understand it. One dude wrote a bit of a rant on the front page of his site about it. I think it was the dude from the review site "The Nucleus" something like that. He did say that he thought Doom3 was a good game.

Half Life 2 people love the article by the way ;) 

In case I can't get on mIRC later: DON'T FORGET! 

...can you stop with the secret rendezvous stuff already and finish the damn Rubicon map... :P