That nunuk's hiring at id should be a news post here for a number of reasons.

1) The timing of Adrian's lawsuit

2) The fact that nunuk/sparth has been known to frequent these parts/#terrafusion, and now he works for id...it's like, the ultimate dream

3) The fact that the hiring of such an extremely top-notch artist like sparth means that id is takking a radically different turn in terms of art on their next project. sparth's style, in my opinion, is very fantasy/ethereal, and much more conducive to adventure games and "far out" settings than Adrian's typically war-ish evil artistic feel.

So this news definitely has implications all over the place, and we need a thread to discuss them in! 

So this news definitely has implications all over the place, and we need a thread to discuss them in!

Go create it ;) 

was Adrian carmack Fired...

Bluesnews says the reason was that he had 41% of the shares and wanted to sell id to activision. They other owners fired him so the company wouldn't be sold and they could buy the shares cheaper from him directly.

Greed makes people do all kind of stupid things.

I've always loved his art. 

2) The fact that nunuk/sparth has been known to frequent these parts/#terrafusion, and now he works for id...it's like, the ultimate dream

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Oh, I don't know about that. Not anymore. I think there are several companies ranking higher than id on the omgloligotanindustryjoblolkeke-scale. Valve. Epic. For one thing they have better tech. And their projects seem more innovative.

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3) The fact that the hiring of such an extremely top-notch artist like sparth means that id is takking a radically different turn in terms of art on their next project. sparth's style, in my opinion, is very fantasy/ethereal, and much more conducive to adventure games and "far out" settings than Adrian's typically war-ish evil artistic feel.

A good artist can apply her expertise to many different genres, ideally. She'd better, or she's just a one trick pony. Of course, that's fine for some people, maybe the contract is just for one project. It'll look good on the resume either way.

Anyway, this doesn't really tell us all that much about id's upcoming projects.

bambuz;

There're legal thingamabobs flying all over and claims to this and that. For one thing, I'm guessing Blues was not privy to any special information. Adrian Carmack claims he was effectively forced to resign, after he refused to sell his stock to the other owners following the activision bid. Having left id he is supposed to do so anyway, but his team of power-tie wearing walking excrement argues he shouldn't have to. Plus, he says he got shafted on some profit-sharing thing.

That's what he says. That's not necessarily what happened. Also, who cares?, id hasn't done anything remotely exciting in many years -- except for releasing old sources.

Chances are Adrian Carmack leaving is good for the consumers. What with id hiring new artists, if for nothing else. 

id hired anyone. Thought they were just the regular group of guys since they started (except for Romero and Petersen after awhile).

Conceptart.org is full of elitists. But I remember Sparth, and I saw that thread - some good work... but it leaves me bitter. 

id always hire at the start of projects. kenneth scott got a lot of press for q3, and they hired a bunch of new guys for Doom3 (I remember one new level designer worked on kiss: pyscho circus) 

id: "hey can we get that guy from KISS?"
id: "gene simmons?"
id: "no psycho circus, the game"
id: "y'serious?" 

...I thought Quake4 going Gold on Monday (see http://www.bluesnews.com/ ) would've warranted some sort of news post here. 

this isn't a general gaming news site. Nor is it a blog. So that's why there's no news when doom3 or quake4 or half-life 2 go gold, or when one of us gets a new job or buys a puppy. (Though, some people try to stick their puppy into otherwise legitimate news posts, I've noticed.) 

of course you can post about it in the GA thread! 

....ya, I guess I expected a bit of reaction in the GA thread. Meh, I'll assume people are too busy walking their puppies at the moment. 

walking their puppies

That's a euphemism. Right? �_� 

to PJW that now he has some free time, he may want to make a Quake single player level, but then I remembered Scampie mentioned earlier that that sort of thing is prohibited by the company contract.

<me walks a puppy instaed, darn> 

You can't be serious... right? 

I know of more restrictive clauses than that; my friend Hutch plays for a Minor League baseball team, he doesn't dare even to play a game of catch. 

I don't think CA.org is full of elitists. Quite the opposite actually, although I've never posted any of my artwork. I find most comments to be actually very helpful, and a lot of people there are actually just really good.

As for Sparth, that's why I didn't submit a news thread. It's good for him, but not news worthy at all.

Still, you shouldn't have rejected my news about getting a kitten for my birthday. Now you will pay. 

... mebbe it is, and then...

BTW: are those textures still on your list of things to do, or should I elicit another's help? 

ConceptArt.org is less elitist than func_msgboard in my opinion, hehe, there are some much more elitist art forums around really.
Hmm, and sparth joing ID isn't good for sparth, but good for ID, they are lucky to have such a talented artist. =)

Oh and Phait, for the record, Kiss: Psycho Circus was a good game, so bleh. 

that id stole Steve Rescoe from Ion Storm in order to have him do level design for Doom 3. That's right, the guy who made Village of Dread and, even more brilliantly, Shadow Over Innsmouth, way back in the day.

Which made it even more surprising to me when Doom3's level design sucked. I guess Willits must have said something like, "Now no large rooms people, in fact stick to small square rooms. But heap on the detail, and keep it really dark, to hide that fact."

I see Quake4 as id's second chance at getting what Doom3 should have been right. Since it has exactly the same graphics and art as Doom3, maybe Raven took the development time to improve the *rest* of the game (you know - the things that were shit in Doom 3 - AI, level design, multiplayer, basically everything but the graphics).

Sorry, this quickly degraded into a bitter Doom3-bashing post. Oh well. 

I think there are several companies ranking higher than id on the omgloligotanindustryjoblolkeke-sca... Valve. Epic. For one thing they have better tech. And their projects seem more innovative.

SINNER !!!

HERETIC !!!

FAGOT !!!

Your FIRED !!! 

Id Software, Raven Software and Activision have confirmed that Quake 4 for the PC is GOLD and will begin shipping to retail stores nation-wide on Tuesday, October 18th!

Sounds good !!! but does it mean that Quake 4 will be avalaible in the next weeks ??? More info at http://www.planetquake.com/quake4/ 

I think there are several companies ranking higher than id on the omgloligotanindustryjoblolkeke-sca... Valve. Epic.

So that makes id what, only the third coolest games company in the world to work for? Gee, best hang on for that better offer then. 

Max/Maya users might be interested to hear that Autodesk have just bought Alias.

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?id=5970886&siteID=123112

I wonder what this means for the future of Max and Maya as seperate products? 

Valve. better tech? haha. q1 with some shaders (well ok, it works and runs fast)
Epic. more innovation? yeah sure. cant have enough UTs

BTW from what I know Ubi is a very good place to work at. After all it�s not about the company name or its games popularity, it about working environment, people, creative freedom. Money too :)

Tronyn: try RoE, its much better game than d3 original. And hows q4 'exactly the same graphics and art'? Or you mean same engine, and sci-fi setting too 

err, half year ago they announced the end of 3ds max development, then they announced max 8,
now they got maya

I`ll stick to max anyway...