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So with the film and music threads still going and being discussed... why don't we get some discussion going on something on topic to the board? What other games are you playing now?
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New Londo and the run to 4 Kings without any bonfire is awful yeah, I agree there. There are shortcuts so you can just drop down and run past the darkwraiths, but coming all the way from Firelink each time is a pain.
You don't have to jump off a cliff for the blighttown one, but that's the fastest route. You come across it eventually playing the normal way.
There are a few bonfires which are hidden in a shitty way, like all the ones behind fake walls, but for the most part you find them naturally, especially if you read messages.

Did you max out your equip load? How much equipment you're carrying determines how fast you move. Keep it under 25% for superfast, 50% for decent speed, and I don't know if there's one at 75% because above 50% you're so slow it's not even funny.

I did not enjoy DS2 as much. Mostly because the world design was nowhere near as well thought out and interesting, but also because their approach to gameplay seemed to be to make things difficult by just throwing tons of shit at you at the same time.
I stopped playing when they redid the bell gargoyles fight, except this time there are even more gargoyles! Yay! 
Kinn. 
Sure, I can do that:

Shambler I notice you gave up on installing this a couple years ago. Well, you gave up early, GFWL was the easy part. Downloading and trying to setup all the unintuitive mods, changing the awkward controls (glovepie required),

That was it. Fast forward a couple of years and I could finally fully delete it off Steam.

"Bloodborne Is Literally Third Person Quake..." ...is the biggest pile of shite I've read this year. Aesthetically, graphically, stylistically, yes, and it looked amazing in Cohh's playthrough. Gameplay-wise, almost the polar opposite, for all the obvious reason of 3rd person controls, targetting, boss arenas, repetitious deaths, no quicksaving etc etc. The direct simple control, the comprehensible monsters, the ability to fight your way out of situations and the crucial option to save if it all gets a bit one-shotty, all missing.

I'm with Kona on this one, I'd like to see an actual PC version of these games, combined with actual skill settings and actual saving (feel free to put it hidden in the menus as "Noob mode ur so ghey u can't cope with Souls" so that all the macho bullshitters who have spent 200 hours reloading from distant checkpoints to learn the minutiae of yet another boss combat can wave their virtual dicks around and laugh the the gamers who actually want to enjoy it) so that more people can play it... (Kinda like XCom EW did with a bunch of skill settings, it didn't force you onto Ironman or rookie randomisation or what else, it allowed the player to ramp it up as much as they want). 
 
About PC controls. Pretty much every game on PC is a console port, apart from MMOs and some indies, right?

I recently started playing Skyrim on PC because my 360 has just about had its chips and I can't be bothered buying a new console for a while.

The first thing that struck me about PC Skyrim was just how terrible it was using mouse and keyboard - the interface is horrific - your mouse never clicks on the right HUD element, and navigating it is a nightmare.

In game, having all my fingers scrunched up on WASD, and then having to play Twister with my fingers constantly to hit E, R, Alt etc all the fucking time in the middle of combat is horrific.

Luckily I have a 360 controller for my PC and as soon as I plugged it in and started using that, the controls were an absolute breeze. 
Bloodborne = Quake 
Player arrives to investigate hostile force, turns out to be interdimensional cosmic horror aliens.
Oppressive, gothic horror environments.
Darkbeasts, Paarl, Cleric Beast, Amelia = Shamblers.
Amateur hunters in streets of Yharnam = grunts and enforcers.
Hostile hunters = other players in DM.
Church hunters = knights and hellknights.
Snakes = crawling scrags? (uuh?)
Werewolves and beasts = fiends.
Church executioners = ogres?? They shoot grenades in the DLC.
Winter lanterns = spawns because you react with terror and screaming whenever they appear.
Fistable pigs = our own dear Mr Shambler. 
BTW. 
I certainly do NOT think the hardcore checkpoint reload boss-fest aspect of Souls should be removed or no longer be the default. People like that, fine, sobeit, that should be the Souls standard. There should just be a noob mode as an additional option.

Kinn, no problem with Skyrim controls for me, worked perfectly on PC. Very much like fantasy Quake in places, especially Dwemer ruins. 
 
There's God mode?? Maybe I can actually finish this game! 
 
I'm glad you switched to a pad. The keyboard and mouse controls are terrible. It's OK to shit on dark souls, games are subjective.

It's a game you talk about with friends,discuss strats and share knowledge. Like the good old days. Playing it blind would make the game unnecessarily hard to the point of being bad. 
 
I'm of the opinion that if you're going to play a console port, use a controller. I don't know why you'd do anything else. That's what it was designed for. 
 
Luckily I have a 360 controller for my PC and as soon as I plugged it in and started using that, the controls were an absolute breeze.

Oh I forgot the most important part: I can now recline comfortably in my chair, and don't have to awkwardly hunch over my keyboard as I slowly morph into Quasimodo. 
 
Note to self: write that FreePIE script for Quake that I keep telling myself I'm gonna do... 
Bloodborne Is The Best Lovecraft Game Since Dark Corners Of The Earth 
 
 
Snakes = crawling scrags? (uuh?)

This is the best thing ever 
PC Game Controls 
The default PC game controls almost always are set up assuming WASD is movement. I hate WASD. They don't line up straight and they're surrounded by other keys.

I push the keyboard to my left and use the arrow keys for movement. Then I set R.Shft, R.Ctrl, Num.4,1,0, as needed (crouch, jump, use, whatever).

Games that don't allow full control over key re-mapping really piss me off. 
Rick, 
I agree with you about custom key mapping. PC Games that dont have this feature are shooting themselves in the foot.

Although I disagree with you about WASD for precisely the reasons you stated as a negative... the reason WASD is best is *because* it's surrounded by keys. :P 
 
Well, it's not like the arrow keys are lonely. Their arrangement and slight isolation from the nearby keys make it hard to hit something else when moving around, and the other keys are close enough to reach easily. I guess it's just something I've gotten used to over the years.

Most often R Shft is run, R Ctrl is crouch/sneak/duck, Num 1 is use, Num 0 is jump. 
I Used To Have A Weird Config As Well 
Right/left mouse - Walk forward/backward
,/. - Strafe left/right
M - Use
Space - Fire
Right alt - Jump

Then I sorted my shit out and started using WASD because I figured out if literally all games came preconfigured that way it was probably for a good reason, and I've never looked back. 
 
wow czg, that is kind of odd...

I think the only thing I ever did that might be odd is have inverted mouse look. I don't use it any more, no idea why I started or stopped. 
 
You're pressing and holding the right shift/control keys with ... your pinky finger? I can't imagine that not hurting like a son of a bitch after awhile. 
 
I hardly ever use the pinky. I shift over and use the ring finger while driving with just the index finger. I guess that's a bit awkward, but you don't have to run or crouch that often really. For games that don't have a toggle for those functions (i.e. sneak/unsneak)it can get to be a bit of a pain at times. 
Czg 
was that in your confused phase of life? 
Pretty Much 
 
Dark Souls Easy Mods? 
Shambler I haven't done any real looking around but I assume there are mods for Dark Souls that add quicksave, make combat easier etc. Others might know something about this. 
 
I'm With Rick 
Thought I was alone. I push the KB to the left and use cursor keys for movement and nearby keys for common functions. By tactile feel, I can position my hand. Using WASD is useless to me because if my hand drifts off position... I prefer not to have to look at the KB and prefer to operate the controls by feel.

Which is not to say my method is any better than WASD. What I'd like to say is that every PC game should have fully configurable keys and mouse buttons. The lack of keybinding really stole away a bunch of my enjoyment of the game Cradle and in Fear 2, you can't assign the del key to anything and I rely on it for Aim Down Sights. 
 
I used to use arrow keys too!
I don't anymore.

Wasd was a little annoying at first because, as you say, the hand tends to wander out of position, but I got used to it... 
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