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I made this picture a long time ago, just dug it up again, might be interesting:

https://www.celephais.net/stuff/fitzquake_family_tree.png

I guess the blue ones are the still active or somewhat recent projects. 
@metlslime 
I'll def use this in the video. Thanks! 
 
Ah that's a neat diagram. 
Can Any One Run This Map For Feedback? 
Yesterday some /vr/-tard came up with a Darkplaces-only Quake map that supposedly fries most non-NASA computers, mine simply crashes to desktop upon trying to load it since its an old POS. Anyone willing to provide footage of it? DL link:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/uuw0ow5597ptxqm/thefpsdestroyer.bsp/file 
#31806 
I couldn't get it to run on Darkplaces, but I did on QSS (at 3FPS with protocol FTE999, "0FPS" with protocol 666). Mark V, vkQuake and QuakeSpasm all give the same error:

Host_Error: SZ_GetSpace: overflow without allowoverflow set

As for the actual map, it's just 8064 grunts and 32 torches in a big room; nothing interesting, although it seems like QSS can't render all of them at once, so about 1/3 of them are invisible. Using notarget to prevent them from attacking me, I get about 30FPS with them on screen.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745464647754448896/803187995737194537/spasm0062.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745464647754448896/803210276227907614/spasm0064.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745464647754448896/803210270490492938/spasm0063.png 
 
me: shoots grunt

centerprint: "there are 8063 to go..." 
Well That Just Sucks 
Sorry for bothering then, I hoped its something decent design-wise and the 'pushing all of the engine limitations' bit in description made me think of something on like "nuts.wad - but for quake" - thanks for screengrabs though 
#31807 
Well that just sucks - thanks for the screenshots though 
Delete #31810 
^previous reply (#31810) didnt appear for me on time so I've unneccessarily made a shortened dupe of it :^\ 
Quaketastic Issue With Chrome 
I'm assuming this is just Chrome but any links to Quaketastic will not open by default in Chrome. I need to "Open in a New Tab" to download anything.

Not sure there's anything that can be done. (No, I'm not using a different browser.) But figured I'd bring it up. 
 
It's a problem with opening download links to HTTP websites from a HTTPS website.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-to-block-some-http-file-downloads-starting-with-chrome-83/

Quaketastic moving to HTTPS would solve this problem. 
 
I just tried it, I get the same issue. I hadn't noticed before today because I rarely use chrome. 
I‘ll Look Into Moving It To Https 
 
DirectFitz Source 
I've put the latest DirectFitz source here: https://github.com/mhQuake/DirectFitz

There are probably other copies of it kicking around the internet, but this is the most recent one I have and it may or may not contain stuff that's not been publicly released before. Including some of the rants I used to do in comments :) 
I Like This Comment 
 
I often suspect that a lot of the differences between the 2 APIs were down to bloody-mindedness more than anything else. The designers deliberately doing things the opposite way to put people's noses out of joint and try start a good entertaining fight. 
The Shabmer Its Furry 
 
 
No, they are not, you absolute piss stained idiot. 
 
E1M2 remixes... I know there's one in Quoth, and there's also Beep's map... any others? 
 
 
Ah yeah the ITS one is an especially good pull. 
Topical.... 
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