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"Venture into a dark and depraved underground laboratory to find what horrors await within."



I'll have a Quaddicted link up soon, and will post it below.
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well that was quite nice. right up my alley stylistically. Nothing overbearingly impressive but consistent use of a few nice unique elements/ textures etc to spice things up and some nice combat setups... quite a pleasant layout too.
Definitely a step up from your last effort, with not a lot of time in between. Looking forward to more medium sized maps like this in the future!
Liked It 
I didn't think it was too dark, or maybe its because I played the updated version first. If there was some sort of visual hint about a shootable button on the other side of the door, it would be very helpful. The message given is sort of vague, as it doesn't relay to the player that the button can be shot, just that its a button.

Other than that, it was a fine map with exceptional gameplay. I just barely made it out alive, one vore in particular got me good. Nice little Half Life reference there too :) I give it a thumbs up, and hope to see more from you.

First run demo, hard skill:

And please for the future, don't use Mediafire. It kills pandas :( 
The thing with the grenade puzzle is that it locks you in a very small area, and you don't see a lot of possibilities to get to the other side of the door. Which means that running in circles for hours is nearly impossible.

I found that OK. 
I played it last night. I thought it was an overall pretty nice map and didn't have too much trouble. I didn't find either of the secrets.

I didn't think it was too dark, but without fog I think it would have been.

Probably one of the armors should have been made available much sooner (like near the start).

Those endless, instantly repeating door messages really should have been fixed. 
Constructive Feedback* 
Maybe I'm stupid, but I think your previous map was a lot more consistent experience and had better flow and enemy placement/use. This one offered way too less health compared to situations were you easily get hurt and almost died.. and grenade bouncing mechanism.. I didn't figure out it and quit there after spending about 5 minute trying to figure out what to do. Whenever there is a new mechanism, it need to be represented in a way it is easy to understand, there wasn't hints or any clues what to do.

Also map is no where near "too dark" and people can use their options screens to set up brightness/contrast, so complaining about it is a bit of unnecessary. Sure you can try out using different ways to make smoother transitions from bright to dark by using for example base light = delay 2 and bigger area light = delay 5 together if you prefer more moody lighting and maybe increasing default values by 25 - 100 depending on place you're lighting. So basically it is nothing that dramatic, it just sounds like it is world's biggest problem in here Quake community. 
Actually, delay 2 would probably do a better job as an area light for big rooms, as long as you keep it away from any surfaces. At equal "light" values, delay 5 doesn't have anywhere near the reach of delay 2.

Delay 5 is my choice for the best all around light, but I have to bump the brightness up to around double of what would look okay with the stock delay lights.

The bad side is that delay 5 suffers from not having much of a "hot spot" near the actual source. When using it for obvious point sources (such as light3_8) I often have to add a second light, with high brightness and high wait, just for the "hot spot".

What would be nearly perfect is a delay that was a mix of 2 and 5, with a center hot spot closer to delay 2 but with falloff like delay 5. 
What I mean was that delay 2 works as hotspot combined with delay 5 makes a much more smoother/realistic results, but that is just my opinion. 
Ah, then we pretty much agree.

You have to really watch out with delay 1 and 2, they can totally wash out a room if you don't crank the wait value up (or gate). It's ridiculous how far delay 1 can reach. 
I'm still dying at 38/82 enemies.

So far, this map is great. At first it seemed to be very Half-Life-esque, with all the puzzles. But when replaying it, the pacing got back to Quake levels, with the puzzles not getting in the way of the combat.
(That is something I dislike about Half-Life: its puzzles still lowers the pacing when replayed, even if we already know what to do, which kills replayability.)

The environment is great, and reminds me a lot of Amnesia: The Dark Descent (which is the game with the most Quake-like art direction I've ever played). 
Amnesia? I don't remember (pun intended) it looking like Quake. This map reminds me of Honey instead. TBH, it feels more like Honey than Gotshun's Requiem... 
Amnesia? I don't remember (pun intended) it looking like Quake.

Not the whole game, of course. But in my opinion, areas like these would be great for a modern Quake game. I can't help but imagine battling a bunch of Quake monsters in there:

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That last screenshot was a teensy tiny thumbnail for me. Here's a fixed link. 
Ah, Yes. 
I see what you mean. I actually mixed up Amnesia and Obscure.

@Pritchard Nope, still a thumbnail. Try again. 
Well it did show up as a tiny thumbnail in Firefox on a PC when I clicked on your link. I just checked it again on my phone and it seems fine. Weird. 
they're both thumbnails for me. Maybe it depends on which previous URLs you clicked on. 
How Soon Is Soon? 
I'll have a Quaddicted link up soon, and will post it below. 
Excellent, thanks! 
Why are you thanking me? I was only citing you from your original post. 
Ah, I see. Well, I sent the map to Spirit on 9 October, so as soon as he has time to process it. 
Here's The Quaddicted Link: 
Very Nice 
get stack overlow error when trying to pick up the crowbar tho 
For Some Reason 
works under quoth, oh well. best level I have played in a while, stunning details 
Crowbar Crashes The Game Again 
how do I start the game so this does not occur pls? 
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