...amid all the shit flinging, I don't have any particular legal beef with any of this (even though I work in the industry). I frankly just don't care enough about that aspect of it when it comes to one person screwing around with one map. I'm guessing that id has plenty of money and lawyers, should they choose to take any action, and they don't need my help.

My beef is posting a map that's a straight auto-conversion across a couple of different tool sets with no concern whatsoever paid to scale or player speed or game balance or any of those things.

I've played some Generations remakes and some of them are pretty damn cool. They look and play great because of the time and care and effort that went into the process of remaking them in a thoughtful way, and changing things that needed changing.

Put a bit more effort into making something cool and you'll find that this community is pretty quick to encourage and praise. This map took five minutes (by your own admission) and looks like a bag of boiled assholes. I'm not sure what you were expecting. 

your little forum lackeys

Quoting for irony. 

@inertia:

conjugate as in "to join together" not as in to dick around with the tense of a verb.

Here's the statement, in plain english this time, for the slow crowd:

I stated that they seem unable to join words together to form a sentence, and as such they seem intellectually incapable of forming a verbal assualt that would affect me.

nice try tho. 

You toughening yourself up for something really badass? Like biting into a lemon, drinking a whole pint of shandy in one go or taking piss in the neighbours garden?

What's your point here? It's not defending zlz - who didn't seem to care much about any of the negative comments his conversion got. Is it defending free use / conversion in general?

Not sure I'd buy that one either, the trolling tactics are pretty obvious. Whatever you wanted to win you probably already did. Over anyone who still cares.

I'm battling a thousand - doesn't the mournful sound of the wind and empty stadium take the fun out of that?

Why not go and look at the speedmaps in the last batch, or try commenting on something in another thread.

You might already have done that, but I don't care enough about anyone on the internet to memorise their ping.

Fun to read thread anyway. 

batting Since they don't play stickball where I'm from. And I can only scroll up the last 25 posts for c+p since I'm lazy and disabled most of my touchpad functions. 

Can't pretend I did more than skim the latest flaming....but I want lackeys! And minions! 

what's a lackey? 

Hail Shambler! 

Don't nerd rage before bed time. You'll upset your tummy. Go jerk off to some anime and get a good nights sleep. 

Done and done. 

I'm suddenly receiving much more spam . . . 

Honestly, why are you here? If you hate us so, and we suck so much, and you don't care, why are you coming back day after day just to make pointless trolls?

Not that I mind; I've got my bag of popcorn, and we're here for the long haul. 

Nobody really cares and they're just here to watch the OTHER people make asses of themselves. That's the ticket. 

I get replies and that makes me feel like someone is giving me attention.

Heh - this thread just wont DIE!!! 

I stated that they seem unable to join words together to form a sentence, and as such they seem intellectually incapable of forming a verbal assualt that would affect me.


Quoting for irony 

maybe

... its not worth the keystrokes or spell check to comment farther 

I haven't stated that I hate all of you, or that I think all of you suck at all, or that "I don't care" in general.

When I mentioned not caring it was in reference to willem continuously posting things that were not in any way useful or informative. I don't care if he continues to do so, because like the rest of you, I see his little baby blue name and just skip the crap he posts that contains no actual content or arguments.

I haven't mentioned hate once.

I do think people that trash a relative newbie modder over something as silly as a quick rip of a popular map really do suck. But, you ALL did not do that. Just a select few to whom my comments were directed, and I never said they suck. I said they were stuck up elitist pricks who seem to believe that their copious amount of free time gives them the right to put down others who dont have so much time to make original content.


To answer your question tho, you can scoll up and read the part where I mentioned that someone from another community had linked me here after having a laugh about how uptight people were being about a non-issue such as this guy making a rip of a quake map for another quake game.

I came here to observe the asshattery, and I decided, once I was here, that I would enjoy myself at the expense of certain raging dicks who are overly concerned about copyright law and who feel it is disrespectful to them that a guy liked someone elses work enough to copy it to a new media and post it for others to try out.

Essentially, I came to observe the uptight stupidity, noticed how easy it would be to generate more stupidity from the people who were posting, and decided to stir the pot for more action.

Considering the number of people claiming this to be the best thread in a while, I think I succeeded in at least infusing some life into this internet backwater, even if I didn't convince one of you to take a step back and stop crapping on this guy for making a quick rip that hurt nobody and that you didn't have to comment on in the first place. 

208.57.237.156

If I'm reading your post correctly, and I believe I am, your position is:

Waaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh 

Notice the lack of actual content in the above post and the intent of that poster.

He has nothing to add to this, and not even the nuts to come out directly and insult me now that he's run out of things to say and is still steamed that I trashed his supposed career for being nothing more than a thoughtless moneygrab that will fuck up the future of gaming if not kept in check.

Willem: Keep hiding behind your veiled insults so you can backtrack like a pussy when someone calls you on it. Maybe when you run out of those, you'll have a point to get across. 

I thought you were skipping our posts? How are you then responding to them?

Also, you're confusing time with skill.


Oh, and yeh, you totally trashed his career. How's life with your parents anyway? Tell your mum I said hi. 

What's that? I can't hear you through my money hat. 

@nonentity:

You aren't a very good troll, but at least you're trying. The childish shot at my mother was really original.

I said: "skip the crap he posts"
not "skip ALL of your posts"

next time, try reading. 

Just a select few to whom my comments were directed, and I never said they suck. I said they were stuck up elitist pricks who seem to believe that their copious amount of free time gives them the right to put down others who dont have so much time to make original content.

My problem with this is : Everyone has every right to put down anyone and everyone, for absolutely no reason at all, justified or not. It really has nothing to do with elitism.

By saying that we can't/shouldn't put down a guy who made a quick rip of someone else's map, you're basically saying that you yourself shouldn't be shitting on people who shit on that guy, since the comment itself hurt nobody, and was in fact harmless in and of itself. Yet you went ahead and did it anyway.

Other than that, I don't really care either way. 

I don't care! <stuff> <stuff> <stuff> I really care and want the attention :( 

208.57.237.156 is clever and has successfully played us all and earned his e-badge in baseless arguing and forum-baiting.

All of the regs here feel thoroughly ashamed of their actions, and 208.57.237.156's ego has been sufficiently boosted that he can return to this mystical 'other forum' from whence he came and leave us all to our anguished tears.

Func has been improved and 208.57.237.156 thinks he's responsible, so everybody's a winner. Hooray.

Can we talk about something less retarded now? I myself am working on a new map which I intend to release in the coming days. It's an unlit, single texture boxmap filled with a thousand explosive crates, and now that everybody here has learned their lesson in manners from 208.57.237.156, I look forward to their heaping praise upon it regardless of its quality or worth.