I don't remember seeing that thread... 

I have been searching all around the deep dark ends of web, looking for versions 1.4 and lower (but not 1.1a) of Worldcraft, and I simply cannot find them anywhere. Anywhere.

Does anybody know, if they even exist, where I can find and download them? 

I've got Worldcraft 2.0
Shall I'll punch the load in your mailbox? 

you ment 1.4 > 1.1a 

I'm just looking for versions 1.4, 1.3, and 1.2. I already have 1.1a, which is what I normally map with. 

why do you want these versions? 

jump to 1.6a or hammer? 

Thats all. 

is there any good user quake 2 engines ?

nothing drastic, but you know minor fixes and improved lighting and stuff. 

to be very solid and bloat free; though it runs Lazarus as its native game dll I've seen no ill effects on basic game play. 

In case any of the moderators want to make this a news post, Andrea has released a new 5-map unit for Quake 2.

http://download.jupiter.come2store.com/Andros/citadel.zip

I've only played map one so far, but it is of very high quality, perhaps the best quake 2 release since....well, 5 years maybe? 

 

http://andrearosa.bravehost.com/gallery1.htm 

I'll take care of this one, but please use the "submit news" form next time. 

what the following error in q2 is caused by :

"gunner tris.md2 has bad size header"

gunner can be replaced by boss2 or solider too depending on the level.

I was trying a custom opengl renderer which let me do a few things which stock q2 couldnt and it works fine on everything (tried a lot of custom stuff) except on the new level pack Citadel which crashes with that error. 

I imagine it is looking for gunner/tris.md2 when reading the header instead of gunner tris.md2. 

no that's the dir path, I just left the rest out by accident. 

http://tfc.duke.free.fr/coding/md2-specs-en.html

Quite interesting, but somewhat jibberjabber to me. The Citadel pack does seem to include a new Gunner, perhaps it uses a custom tris.md2 which your new opengl rendered doesn't like?

Just some thoughts, no real clue what could be wrong :( 

I found that too, but had no idea what it meant :)

I've alerted the author to it but dont know if he can fix it. Using kmquake2 for now, which is a good engine but seems to have new effects which you cant turn off and which I'm not fond of. 

There's also another useful document on that site,
http://tfc.duke.free.fr/coding/mdl-specs-en.html

By comparing the two I managed to turn the md2 exporter for blender into an mdl exporter for blender. There are still a few bugs, but it produces something you can open and fix in qME.

http://people.pwf.cam.ac.uk/~ajd70/mdl_export.py if you want to test it, ongoing bug hunting on inside3d. 

something along the lines of 100b, coagula, 1024. an interesting theme with a definite deadline (so maps are actually being finished). might be fun, without the pressure of having to get perfect results.
ideas/comments? 

Make the best map comprised entirely of rectangular brushes! 

Does it mean only 90� angles, without rotated brushes ? Would be interesting in this way indeed... 

NO right angles instead? 

Brushes are exclusively rectangular, with no rotation allowed.

2000 brush limit, no sky texture allowed, only custom textures allowed.