but just what criteria makes it an elder world map? :S 

i appreciated that he talked about individual maps within episodes, since so often people only talk about releases as complete units, even though it's not very helpful to compare episode A to single map B.

For example, I've long considered oum3 a favorite, and you could rank it against other maps such as ikspq5, but to try to ask "is insomnia better, or is apsp1 better" is bound to be useless and inconclusive. 

but just what criteria makes it an elder world map? :S

plain architecture, and lots of unlit areas :) 

#126 posted by metlslime [64.175.155.252] on 2008/08/20 03:44:00
but just what criteria makes it an elder world map? :S

plain architecture, and lots of unlit areas :)


I might have a chance at making that list. 

Metl comes close to owing me a new keyboard. 

disorienting layout is also a prerequisite. 

good points in this thread about the definition, which is easily the most difficult out of the four categories. 

but it's a shame you didn't feel you could put Masque in there. :( 

i had a feeling you'd have to open the definition of elder world up like that, tronyn. ;)

i like most of your choices, but i'd have put red777 first. it's one of my all time favourite maps. ^_^ it's the most intricate map i've ever seen with consistent architectural styles and amazing attention to detail.

also, i guess i'm wierd, but i kind of liked bastion more than marcher. :P marcher is visually stunning, but i felt bastion had a better overall vibe.

and yeah, definately masque would have been up there. that was a truly breath-taking map. 

http://qexpo.tastyspleen.net/booth.php?id=167

Some screenshots and a blurb on the Remake project. 

to dark... :| that�s why joequake ownssssss pics are always fine... 

 

to celebrate his return to unlife aka mapping

and elaborate on his motives.

:-E 

i�m to lazy this year... i�m in vacacion and at home i got no motivacion... i will participate next year... 

Inspired by Tronyn's top10 lists, I got the idea of making a semi-random list of less well-known maps that either feature somewhat unusual themes or gameplay, or that I felt at least deserve an honorable mention of some sort.

http://qexpo.tastyspleen.net/booth.php?id=23&page=314 

in the last week. I'll have no more than a fairly large single player map ready for it though. 

I had less than that, but having more stuff there can't hurt.

There's a couple on that list I don't think I've played before Negke - cheers. 

quite a many insightful description. 

I feel a little guilty, about not having that monster pack up, but they are not ready for prime time. 

Stuff's almost always better when completed to its own schedule.

I take my hat off to Tronyn and Patrick for planning so that the nsoe pack arrived with the qexpo as it did. 

Inspired by Tronyn's top10 lists, I got the idea of making a semi-random list of less well-known maps that either feature somewhat unusual themes or gameplay, or that I felt at least deserve an honorable mention of some sort.

but where's The Fly by Markus Klar? :o

seriously though, nice list. middle evil is an awesome map, it's just that the gameplay is not that great. i tried once and failed, but i'd love to see a new map using those textures.

precipice and kjsp1 are both awesome too. ikwhite is underused and i actually completely forgot about precipice.. wasn't it originally for some contest or other? 'outdoor' maps or something? 

good list; it would be nice if you put in a small blurb explaining what makes each map interesting. 

cool list, for some reason I'd never seen The Monolith Complex before - looks great! Also, Cobalt Palace was a really neat map. I agree on w/Necros on The Middle Evil. Maybe a speedmapping session could occur using those textures or something.

re: elder world
yeah, there really wasn't enough to do a "narrow elder world" list so it had to be broader.. it would be nice to see some maps that really take e4m2/e4m3 elements to a whole new level (using quoth of course)

I was also determined to pick individual maps as opposed to packs - seems better, a lot of stuff gets lost in terms of critical attention in packs. A vain mapper would release his episode 1 map at a time to maximize review words-per-brush - lol 

Just wanted to mention, i think its been a very good idea stretching out the length of the qexpo to 4 weeks, it give more time for everyone to set up competitions and booths etc, and the number of booths is already up to 50.

Also, I may have to do an overall top 10 q1sp maps, to complement tronyns top 10s. 

I wasn't planning it, but I made a little boot on QExpo 2008.
My new map isn't finished, but I though to show some model explorement.

http://qexpo.tastyspleen.net/booth.php?id=68

I added a small try-out level for the Bones model.
http://members.home.nl/gimli/bones.zip