Dare I ask: What did Negke do for money? ;-) 

gargled an ogres balls in exchange for a shiny nickel. 

Just got around to playing Shambler's Castle, the 1 level "quake in doom3 engine" mod. I was a bit sceptic and obviously purists will easily find some things that don't feel "just right", but overall it was actually really fucking good and great fun. 

 

To "however long ago that came out and everyone loved it", Jago. 

first thing i did was replace all the 44khz weapon sounds with original 11khz stock quake sounds. 

well I'm doing a lecture/talk on Quake, as a less formal "cultural lecture" here (at this university, in front of a small academic audience) early next year, I'd take $50 for that (lol). I'll still be doing it either way though.
I'll convert the talk to an article and post it somewhere afterwards. It's tentatively called "The Lingering Legacy of id Software's Quake: A Glimpse Into Thirteen Years of Darkness." Various aspects of Quake, its inspirations, history, artistic style, level design stuff, legacy and etc will be touched on.

For the record I don't think academics should get paid public money to study videogames, I'm even a bit iffy about film. Those things culturally perpetrate themselves; I guess I'm a bit conservative on this one but I think part of the point of literary study is to preserve classic literature like Dante, Shakespeare, Milton, etc. 

That sounds very cool! Wish I could attend. 

so academics should only study dead art forms? 

though if something's in your exact same language (no language studies required) and not more than 50 years old, you're not really making an effort to put yourself in the mindset of another culture. I can see the benefit society gets out of historians and even about people who can explain cultural/literary history, etc, but I don't see the justice behind someone playing GTA3, writing up their opinion (laced with suitable jargon of course) and collecting public money. Academics is supposed to be difficult (if not boring). 

Okay, I guess i agree with that.

But, I think video games is a pretty interesting and rich art form, and I would like somebody to be thinking deeply about it. Game reviewers rarely do, game makers are often too busy making games to write about it, and even when a reviewer or developer writes something really good about games, it's hard to find because there is no organization trying to collect or catalog all of that writing.

So I guess i'm saying since academics shouldn't be doing it, could we at least have some faux-academics to meet all of these needs? 

im doing my senior project on quake and how it learns you computer stuff :O 

I agree that that should be done (lol, I'm doing it, though I'm doing it for free and for fun).
I guess what I'm saying is that the people who should be doing that are journalists, culture writers, and more thoughtful reviewers who want to publish something more extended based on their work and experience. These people are a lot more in touch with current culture than academics. 

Your title's too long. Something easier to digest would be better. "The Lingering Legacy of id Software's Quake" alone sounds good to me. 

 

Anyway... this is what i waste my time on for the last ages. (Project has a strong tcl dependancy - see installation notes). http://scidvspc.sourceforge.net 

...want to go to Tronyn's talk!! 

Where is Tronyn's talk? We should all go along and be groupies. 

University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, MB, Canada - basically the centre of North America. 

Could you record it? :)


I need some serious input on the bounty idea. There is some negotiation about an advertisement deal on Quaddicted that might enable me to fund quite a bit.

It would taint the frontpage though, especially for new visitors. 

TRonyn, live internet broadcast plz. 

...basically the centre of North America.

Geographically, maybe... 

you're from Manitoba?


That sucks, dude. I meet so many people from there... in other cities.

But yeah, I agree about the live feed. 

Bounties often don't seem to work very well. I can't find a reference for this now though :/ 

http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=15861&start=263&end=270

Yeah, I'll be at Tronyn's talk. Funny thing is unis are the only place i take the back row.