Func_Msgboard: Doom4

Posted by Doom4 on 2008/05/08 02:47:10

Doom4 has been announced, id are looking for people, if you are that person, and are good at what you do, have a look.

http://www.idsoftware.com/

Doom4, discuss it or not.

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#308 posted by Lunaran on 2008/09/10 03:51:18

"Design is law" - John Romero

id games before romero left: awesome

carmack games without romero: systematic, methodical, repetitive, uninteresting

romero games without carmack: unfinished piles of unchecked ambition

see? it all makes sense

We Really Need To Get Those Two Back Together...

#309 posted by metlslime on 2008/09/10 04:06:29

Okay Here's The Plan

#310 posted by Zwiffle on 2008/09/10 05:04:44

I'll invite Romero over, saying it'll be a casual get together. You get Carmack over here with the promise an iPhone contract. When they meet up, we'll lock them in a room until they work out their differences or one cannibalizes the other to surive.

Something big is happening here, people.

#311 posted by Urre on 2008/09/10 09:21:39

That sounds very similar to a Strafe Left strip I read a while ago on RPS...

#310 FTW

#312 posted by Shambler on 2008/09/10 10:45:56

#310

#313 posted by Kinn on 2008/09/10 19:27:39

Something big is happening here, people.

and it's happening in my pants

Kinn

#314 posted by Sielwolf on 2008/09/10 20:37:44

lay off the vindaloo dude

Speaking Of Pants

#315 posted by Lunaran on 2008/09/10 22:09:27

wasn't this thread about doom4

#316 posted by starbuck on 2008/09/11 15:57:02

"Game Design is 99% programming and 1% design" - John Carmack

One of the stupidest quotes I've ever seen attributed to a smart person. Is it legit?

Apparantly

#317 posted by ijed on 2008/09/11 16:00:29

Got it from 'On Game Design' by Chris Crawford.

Good read, btw.

John 'JBJ' Carmack EYHO

#318 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/09/11 16:04:57

99% Tech, 1% Design

#319 posted by Zwiffle on 2008/09/11 16:41:57

Gets you rubbish like UT or FEAR. Design gets you Quake, BioShock, Fallout 3... etc.

Well

#320 posted by Spirit on 2008/09/11 17:42:22

In Carmack's case Tech and Design are almost the same.

#321 posted by Blitz on 2008/09/12 01:30:57

Design gets you Quake

The whole point of Quake is that they scrapped the original design and just slapped a bunch of random shit together.

#322 posted by Zwiffle on 2008/09/12 01:34:35

Good designers know when what they've got isn't working and take appropriate action.

*ahem* FEAR *ahem*

�_�

#323 posted by Kinn on 2008/09/12 21:16:21

i'm sure carmack said that in 1992 or whatever, when "design" also meant you had to be an assembly coder or some shit.

this discussion is going nowhere.

To Be Fair

#324 posted by ijed on 2008/09/12 23:04:24

There was some sour grapes in the comment.

Doesn't mean it wasn't said, or not easily taken out of context, now.

Assembly coding was maybe five years earlier than that, though.

Blitz

#325 posted by Lunaran on 2008/09/13 01:35:31

yeah, they slapped shit together and it's still fun 12 years later.

meanwhile, they cop a squat and concentrate for three years and squirt out Doom3.

Actually...

#326 posted by metlslime on 2008/09/13 03:51:21

the was still some assembly code in Quake. Just a couple of functions, though. Which reminds me, i need to get around to removing that...

Corporate Nonesense

#327 posted by ijed on 2008/09/13 05:02:58

Forula = money

So why is japan making so much. Alot of the bigshots like to come across as pioneers, but the truth is that if anyone hasn't done it before and made cash, they don't want to know.

The most important thing to have in any concept is 'this game is like game X, but better'.

Forula = Formula

#328 posted by ijed on 2008/09/13 05:03:26

Please Do Metl

#329 posted by Lunaran on 2008/09/16 01:12:57

I can't do a clean rebuild of fitzquake because I can't get the assembly converter build step to function consistently but I can't risk wiping out the .objs :(

You May Need An Old Copy

#330 posted by HeadThump on 2008/09/16 04:13:51

of the ML.exe that came with VC Studio 6. The MASM pack version is likely to still work fine, but if not, I can put it up on line.

Hmm

#331 posted by nonentity on 2008/09/16 16:02:26

You guys seem to have missed an important point; Zwiffle apparently has access to an early release copy of Fallout 3!

(That or his post was opinion based hyperbole rather than having the slightest grounding in reality)

#332 posted by Zwiffle on 2008/09/16 16:11:07

Fine, if you don't think Fallout3's gameplay looks amazing, then replace with Team Fortress 2. Problem solved.

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