
Agreed!
#322 posted by
Skiffy on 2016/01/29 15:54:30
The projectile change has been a lovely change.

Mankrip
#323 posted by mfx on 2016/01/29 17:05:19
could you please show me a screenshot of that texture distortion?
Thanks.

Shotguns
I'm torn about it. I didn't change it back to hitscan, but I have to say, it threw off my timing quite a bit. I'm still having a hard time hitting scrags in AD.

At First I Didn't Like It
#325 posted by
Drew on 2016/01/30 00:31:32
just because of initial discomfort, I suppose.
Now I love it, deeply.
I also love the changes made to gaunts, and to droles.

All Or Nothing
#326 posted by
sock on 2016/01/30 12:57:56
I would like to know about the thought process behind the change to the shotguns. I'd like to know exactly what kind of experience this change was intended to provide.
When I think of Quake and what makes it different to modern games, I always come back to projectile combat. The ability to move fast and dodge enemy fire instead of the usual take lots of damage and then hide / heal mechanics. I can understand in the old days of Quake, having a gun fire so many projectiles at once would have been bad, so this is probably why old games have hitscan, its technically better for the engine!
So I started a new mod called 'Repent' that would be all projectiles! I started with the shotguns and the first thing I noticed was that when I could see the projectiles the gun felt more powerful to me. The fact I could see what I was firing, where it was going and there was a slight pause before impact made the game experience better IMHO.
I then converted all shotguns in my mod to projectiles including the soldiers and fighting them became much more satisfying. It was no longer cheap hitscan weapon fire from enemies that I could hardly see, I actually had a fighting chance to dodge their attacks!
Sadly the original mod was lost in a hard disk crash, so I started again and wrote a second version which is now the mod AD. Later on in the development of the mod the plasma gun was added as a way to change the LG to projectile and that completed all the player weapons being projectile fire.
The projectile shotgun went through a lot of changes and I do mean a lot. It was constantly tweaked over and over during the course of the mod, with different speeds, particles, damage and spread patterns. One thing I did notice is that everyone on the MOD did not like the projectile shotgun at first (because its different) and then after a while loved it! I think this is partly because everyone has to re-learn what they are doing with the shotgun and I think this can be frustrating. Once the initial aiming issue is dealt with most people will like the change, its just not an easy path to follow.
For a long time the projectile shotgun was not the default, I had it setup as an option and no one used it, except Scampie! I realized that if I don't make it default no one is going to use it because they want things the same, so I decided its got to be default! I have to accept that everyone is going to be frustrated at first, but hopefully they will like it after lot of use and see the fun it can be.
#327 posted by
Spirit on 2016/01/30 14:56:59
I fucking love the shotgun. Didn't like the sound at first but it grew. I just wish the bullets would trace through enemies. :>

Ya
#328 posted by
Qmaster on 2016/01/30 16:17:06
It took a little getting used to but it quickly became a lot of fun...only thing I didnt like though was that I have trouble seeing which dots are actual projectiles, and which are the particle effect.
#329 posted by
JneeraZ on 2016/01/30 16:35:40
1. Position the monster in front of the gun.
2. Adjust aim for movement.
3. Fire.
:)

Gameplay/Visual Patch 2
#330 posted by
sock on 2016/01/31 20:28:06
Could someone please update the header of this thread?
Offical Patch 2
New readme file - Patch 2
Thanks
#332 posted by
Kinn on 2016/01/31 21:45:36
Just in case you miss the note in the readme, there are two new FRIGGIN AWESOME maps in this - remakes of doom e1m1 and quake e2m2

Going To Be Playing Through These...
#336 posted by
ionous on 2016/02/01 03:39:35
#337 posted by
metlslime on 2016/02/01 07:00:23
added patch 2 to the top.
Not sure if this makes patch 1 obsolete so i left the link for that.
#338 posted by
- on 2016/02/01 07:29:44
It does make patch1 obsolete.
The correct installation of AD is to download the base mod, and then apply the files from patch2 on top of it.

AD_v1_42final_patch1_patch
#339 posted by
negke on 2016/02/01 07:45:25
Why aren't the patches called v1.43 and v1.44? Or even 1.5 and 1.6 since apparently there are major changes?
#340 posted by
ericw on 2016/02/01 07:54:04
also, the Quakespasm dev build linked in the top post is obsolete now that the stable version is out.
Maybe replace the second paragraph with "The MOD is designed to work with QuakeSpasm 0.91.0 (Must use this version or higher). Download here:
http://quakespasm.sourceforge.net/download.htm "
#341 posted by
metlslime on 2016/02/01 08:17:17
updated the news item again, with that info

Animated Giblets?
#342 posted by
Skiffy on 2016/02/01 10:10:56
So has anyone considered supporting some animation states for gibs? entrails come to mind... I would love to see them coiling in the air and land in a pile when hitting the ground. Right now its all static. Heck a simple squishy impact for most flesh chunks would be a nice addition. So you would have a in air and end landing animation sequence..
So Midair "idle"
Impact "transitions from Idle pose to rest state"
And then an end pose which could also support a few frames. Beating hearts anyone? :)
Sorry I love making the gibs for games. Did that for a few over my career. Messy but fun. I do like that AD added per monster versions though. Step in the right direction.

Thats
#343 posted by
ijed on 2016/02/01 13:01:27
Actually a nice idea, but also maybe overkill if it were applied to everything.
#344 posted by
JneeraZ on 2016/02/01 13:10:54
"Why aren't the patches called v1.43 and v1.44? Or even 1.5 and 1.6 since apparently there are major changes? "
That's a good idea, actually. Just make it a complete download each time with a new version number. Nobody likes cumulative updates.

E1m1 & E2m2
#345 posted by
DaZ on 2016/02/01 13:19:23
Cool maps!
Missed a few secrets on e1m1 but managed to find them all (somehow) on e2m2. Had a rather hilarious moment in e2m2 where I had no ammo to shoot a raised button in order to escape from a pit :D
The ammo situation seemed very tight unless you keep finding areas off the beaten track. I just didn't find any for a while I suppose.
Demos
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33279452/e1m1_e2m2_daz.7z

Daz Your Youtube Is Dusty!
#346 posted by
Skiffy on 2016/02/01 14:51:26
You should record all of Arcane Dimension with Perfect secret and monster kills. I would love to see you tackle the monster that is AD_Swampy in one perfect run.. haha