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Film Thread.
I thought a trio of themed threads about other entertainment media might be good. If you're not interested, please just ignore the thread and pick some threads that interest you from here: http://celephais.net/board/view_all_threads.php

Anyway, discuss films...
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Not Trolling 
do you seriously consider the dark knight movies great? they are pompous with no substance and so full of plot holes and stupid/impossible things. 
Yes, They Are. 
 
Spirit 
they are pompous with no substance and so full of plot holes and stupid/impossible things.

http://i.imgur.com/HyS6E.jpg 
Gotta Admit 
the only one I'd say is great, and still holds up for me
(despite holes) is #2. 
 
I - do not - understand - what - sassy Mister plastic face - is - trying to say - to me. 
 
Well, they are super hero films after all. :P 
2 Is Definitely The Best 
TDK is _THE_ Batman film, unlikely to be topped, and it finally did justice to the source material. 1 and 3 are good, 3 was a bit of a letdown but still good, just like Inception was a bit of a letdown, but still good.

Nolan focuses so much on having a fast-moving script with twists and turns, that if you think about it afterwards there are inconsistencies at best (or plot holes at worst), a tendency there since Memento. Despite the realistic veneer his movies aren't at all about plausibility but instead about obsession scheming and double-crossing. I hope he stops increasing the scale and goes back to something a calmer, but I haven't disliked any of his films. 
#4923 FTW/ 
Exactly. WTF do you expect from BATMAN?? The basic premise is ludicruous, as is the comic-book background - that Nolan managed to make the idea impressively credible is one of the many triumphs of the trilogy. 
 
I expected some well designed plot.

I thought all the characters were pretty much normal humans, not like Superman, Spiderman etc. Almost all the things they do are possible except for the technological stuff. For example Batman can not fly, he uses some wing suit. So I guess I expected at least the human decisions to be remotely logical. But they aren't.

I mean, if Batman was crushed by Bane earlier why does he go up against him in the same way (fist fight) again later, after his imprisonment in the pit? Why didn't he use his bat sign shaped tranquiliser thingies? Or knives on his fists like he had in the previous movie.

The movies give such a sense of importance and drama(ticality?) that I felt like they meant serious business. 
Really 
normal humans go around as masked vigilantes and have amped up not even the army has this tech at their disposal?

The decisions are remotely logical in the world they are in, which is not the same as this world.

And yes thematically they are pretty serious, but that doesnt have to translate into reality. Its like games, you can go be immersive and serious without having to forces realism down your throat.

Also, why is almost everything you dont like automatically "pompous" or "pretentious"? 
Also 
Waling Dead Season 2 - the internet seems to hate it but I thought this was a pretty great season, better than the first and the last 2-3 episodes were seriously good tv. 
Walking Dead 
Didn't like the second season too much on account of the annoying wife and deputy. But yeah, it got better towards the end. 3rd season is awesome so far, however it's a completely different show than the 1st season. But that's fine as the changes are believable and they result in a better show IMO. 
 
Was the second season the one based on the farm that whole time? That just about put me off the series, I couldn't understand all the hype, I thought it failed at being horror-zombie and was just a farm drama. Dr Quinn fucking Medicine Woman. Boring as hell. Now that they've ventured out it's actually turned into an adventure/horror again and is interesting, and has action and gore! I think we're up to the 3rd episode of S3, in the prison so far, in my country. You guys are probably a bit further ahead. 
Yep Thats The One 
 
 
Spirit: it doesn't sound like blockbusters are for you, and especially superhero ones. Did you like the avengers? That was way more unrealistic.

Nolan hasn't done a bad movie, they're all good imo. Seems he can do no wrong. Can't wait for the new Superman with Zack Snyders cool visuals (except no more fucking slow mo action sequences please) with Nolan and Goyer's story/screenplay. Should be awesome. 
3rd Season Is Great 
But as I said, it's not the same show anymore. You can really tell that Darabont was forced to leave after season 1. 
 
Lawless 
I get the impression that neither John Hillcoat nor Nick Cave had as much control over this as would have been helpful. The Proposition and The Road are beautiful pieces, some of my favourite modern films, especially The Proposition, and what makes them so good is the bleak idea of mere survival, none of this young love/American dream stuff that's clearly meant to draw in a wider audience. The script is predictable (good try I guess, Cave) and also, at the same time, somewhat nonsensical. Gary Oldman's turn is predictable (just like his role in Book of Eli, I thought), Shia is not much of an actor, Mia has talent but isn't given much to work with. Tom Hardy is great in this, and I didn't see much in his (or Oldman's) performances in Tinker Tailor etc, so that does mean something. Also, Guy Pearce... what the fuck. I wish the movie had at least hinted at what was wrong with his character, but anyway, his acting was effective!

Excellent cinematography, but overall not half as good as the the director's previous two films. 
The Revenant 
Sweet film. Black black humour. 
Skyfall 
excellent, go watch it. Except Spirit. 
I Saw It 
I can't unsee it now. 
 
Looper

is pretty damn awesome all around. Thankfully it WAS different from the trailer (which I foolishly watched). Highly recommended! Watch it with a good sound system, you need bass. 
Wow 
I agree with you completely. 
Nah Man 
I consider Looper "pompous with no substance and so full of plot holes and stupid/impossible things."

although I'm definitely joking, I actually don't see how that _doesn't_ apply. heh. maybe in that Looper (which I enjoyed) was less serious - your movie can only be so serious with Bruce Willis in it! 
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