People really need to start making maps for this and using the stuff in it. I've been replaying it recently and as well as it being a damn good pack in general with cool maps and ass-pounding gameplay, the addons are actually really bloody good and it's a shame they're neglected.

Things that are cool in rough order of coolness:

Horn of Summoning
Thunder Hammer
Rotations
Gremlins
Scorpions
Exploding stuff
Laser gun
Floating mines (if used well)

Prox grenades and the shield are kinda meh.

Dooooooo eeeeeeeeeeeet. W3rd. 

Doubt they're even sold anymore. 

If you haven't already played it, there's the old Death's Dominion pak (ddep2 & lethargy) that uses SoA elements. 

they aren't that hard to get hold of via other means. Many other func ppl have the packs, and they are only about 20mb zipped.

This is illegal of course, but nobody has complained about mappers packaging the progs and resources from the packs in their own levels...

yet. 

I think at least one of the packs is sold at http://www.idsoftware.com 

Not at id. 

Warez it. I can almost guarantee you will not be able to find it in stores anymore - I've looked. You can probably find it online somewhere to download, that's how I got Quake after I had to reformat my Hard Drive. After all this time the shit should be free anyway. 

The 'rotating' geometry stuff in scourge is an extremely dodgy hack, which is a pain to set up and works badly. 

Is there better 'rotating geometry stuff' available? 

They are quite often sold at eBay... 

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http://skynet.campus.luth.se/~chosen/bam/bamtri.bsp
Make a map with less brushes and faces. 

http://czg.spawnpoint.org/stuff/craptri.bsp 

http://skynet.campus.luth.se/~chosen/bam/bamtri2.bsp
1) this has less brushes
2) this is finishable (with full kills too)

did you notice the previous map was "playable" in dm too!

Would like to see someone do a speedrun on this.

I tried to go even further but it would probably need modified compiling utilities (you can't currently make a map without a single world brush with either aguirre's or the vanilla qbsp). If it's possible in the engine, I don't know. 

I already produced a one brush, one monster map sometime ago (could be years now) when this subject first came up.

Seek and ye shall find... 

I saw it lately (cause it has been launched 2 month ago...) but IMHO the trailer is really "Doom 3-ish" !! I'm sure I will love the game :D

http://www.quake4game.com/

BTW, it's maybe time to create a Q4 icon like we have for Quake/Q2/Q3... what do you think ? 

This was discussed ages ago as a 1 brush map contest (although we didn;t think of spawning the player above the monster, hence 2 brush really?) And it's just as fascinating now as it was then....


Now, go map. 

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/426/altf40wl.jpg 

yea yea it was just a response to czg's "prick" map with four brushes (four polygons, all triangles). The ORIGINAL IDEA was to make a functioning and playable sp (or dm) map with very few brushes. I did this because a lot of the speedmaps were / are such fps hogs. (hello tron - don't make a huge open area with 100 monsters)

That's what the original bamtri was about.

I've seen some 100 brush map contests, but why not go a bit lower, say, 33 brushes and a custom one-pixel constant color texture pack. :) 

Dunno if you play Q3, but I entered this:
http://www.planetquake.com/pjw/pjw3quickie5.html
in a 20-brush contest and was lucky enough to win with it.

Very low brush-count contests are fun. 

http://www.ninjatheory.com/blinkblink/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24&Itemid=52

This is a pretty long and interesting read. It tells the story of an indie developer troubles of getting a publishing deal for their next-gen console game (which is "oohed" and "aahed" at E3 and GDC in 2004 and 2005) and how they eventually make it. 

That's a cool-looking level you've got there. 

thnx