I read a weird news... After Doom movie, here would come in summer 2007 a Halo movie.... o_O ...

Peter Jackson will be the director... Also, note he was already the director of Lord of The Ring trilogy... Hopefully he would do something cool regarding what has been done concerning Tolkien's trilogy adaptation...

Wait and see... 

I totally agree with speedy about valve and epic. The only thing from epic that looks good is that Gears of War thing, and to me Valve is just the biggest piece of overhyped, overbloated, overhyped piece of fucking piss shit since Pool of Radiance for PC. I just absolutely despise Valve. There is NO WAY WHATSOEVER that Valve is better than Id. Epic has some purdy graphics... but.. cough.

I heard about the Halo movie, and that a LOT of big names were signed up for it already, but that Uwe Boll was directing it (no lie, they said it in an issue of PCGamer.) 

If not for Valve we could not have Barney circlejerks and fanparties 

No, I don't mean that way... anyway, Valve should burn in the fires of hell along with Scampie and the Virtual Boy. 

So that makes id what, only the third coolest games company in the world to work for? Gee, best hang on for that better offer then.

That's a nice man you got there. Made entirely out of straw you say?

But fine, more examples. Bungie. Anything involving Sid Meier or Warren Spector. DICE seem to be a pretty good place to be right now. I wouldn't mind having Broussard and Miller running interference for me, however long time DNF has been in development hell.

I'm not saying anyone should turn down id -- I'm saying they're not the be-all, end-all one-stop shop for high profile development they once was. Hell, Raven seems to do more fun stuff.

speedy,

I hope you brought enough drugs for the whole class, young mister.

Valve. better tech? haha. q1 with some shaders

Now see, that's just so damn stupid I hardly now where to begin. So I won't.

Suffice to say, there's more to the tech than just the renderer. Consider Steam, for one thing. Consider the brass balls on Newell. You bet your ass I'd rather be a part of Valve's future than id's - but that's just me.

< Epic. more innovation? yeah sure. cant have enough UTs
You know, I watched Sweeney's gdc keynote. What epic are doing in terms of empowering artists and refining the scripting process gives me a got damn erection.

zwiffle;
I just absolutely despise Valve.

Yeah... So tell me again why I should value your opinion on them, you just threw away every last bit of credibility you might've had on the subject. But sure, let's play.

There is NO WAY WHATSOEVER that Valve is better than Id.

They made the fps sp genre. MADE it. They fucking totally blew everything else out of the water. For years, I might add. With the exception of Bungie, no other company has so totally dominated the FPS single-player genre. Other companies have been trying to dethrone them, no one has looked at id and said 'these are the guys we have to be better than.' They've looked at Valve and said that. Valve is the benchmark. They are the Blizzard of action games. 

Consider Steam, for one thing


haha 

and lets not argue what game you like more
its just a personal opinion

I gave up hl2 at ~50%.

halo is just crap with amazing ad budget and the privilege of being the only shooter on xbox at its time 

The low gravity and utter amazing slowness of halo makes me hate it, while the story is very nice and the concept of the halo is very cool(which is from a book), the makers had to make it enormously sluggish for gamepad jockeys to have a chance to aim in time, which kills it for me, also the forced fov value at 60 ruins it even more. 

Valve "MADE" the FPS genre? You better start sharing some of that stuff you are on. ID and Epic made the fps genre. Valve rode on their success. 

FPS SP genre. Single player. They set the bar for it with Half-Life. Reading, mofo, can you do it? 

voodoochopsticks: lol, you can't bash Halo without at least mention it's level design:

1) Build a large, generic box room (try to make it as symmetrical as possible, but put in enough dividing walls and random crap on the floor to make it hard to see where exactly you are in relation to the exits).
2) Build a straight corridor and a corner corridor.
3) Take the aforementioned three prefabs and ctrl-c/ctrl-v as many times as is necessary until the level hits it size budget.
4) Profit!!! 

JPL: Peter Jackson is not directing the Halo movie, although he may be producing it. 

its ok that u are mad about HL and that you want to work at Valve

Just dont get angry and bitter every time subject of Valve vs ID appears 

Yeah Kinn, I remember some of those levels, like running down a spiral staircase for 20 minutes straight, with the same enemy positioning for every 5 floors, and the ones in between empty.

I thought that game looked so cool before, I wonder if it had been much better if it had been made for pc in the first place. 

/me shouts over the noise of people who still think it's worth the time spent trying to argue with speedy

You can't be serious... right?

I never signed an actual contract that says I can't do that, but an NDA can be construed a lot of ways, and there's plenty of other "policies" that aren't in any contract.

That said, the general attitude is "if you're spending the time/ideas on game stuff, spend it on your job." I've heard it ten different ways from ten different people though, ranging from "activision owns any game work you do, so you can't release anything that hasn't been through QA" which I've still been unable to officially confirm, to "doing free stuff for a raven game will encourage/bolster the online modding community." Either way I feel blessed I can entertain myself with plenty of non-gametype creative endeavors should the need arise.


pjw doesn't have any free time anyway though. 

Valve did not make the fps SP genre - the only thing they made that was any good was mass-production of user-made Total Conversions, and they even fucked that up.

Assuming you mean interesting, enthralling SP experiences I would say look to Hexen or Duke3d before lurching to Valve. WAY before HL, these games were pushing the SP experience to the limits.

Ok, HL added some cut-scenes. HL2 added some physics. Can anyone tell me where the gameplay is? Hmm? Throwing chairs around with my grav-gun? Crawling through innumerable vents to get around a locked door? Jumping on crates to reach the vent which gets me around the locked door? I admit HL and HL2 had a few good moments, but that is all they had.

And besides those games, all of Valve's other products are just plain Made-In-America crap. Steam? LAFF. Counterstrike? CRY. DoD? It used to be good, but DoD: Source ruined most of what made DoD fun, and combined it with bad framerates.

Give me Nintendogs before you give me Crap-Life 2. Haha, that was clever. :( 

 

The kittens do.


:*( 

You're all wrong. Apart from the people who are right. But I didn't read their posts.

Anyway, can I just point out that unless metl threatens to de-moderator-ise me, I will post news items about people's puppies.

Thank you. 

"if you're spending the time/ideas on game stuff, spend it on your job."

What if you're a level designer by profession and you want to animate monsters in your spare time? Or an engine programmer who chooses to knock out a few Quake textures as a hobby?

It all sounds a bit silly to me. 

JPL: Peter Jackson is not directing the Halo movie, although he may be producing it.

OK, OK, sorry for the mistake... 

Zwiffle,

all of Valve's other products are just plain Made-In-America crap.

Have a little pride, son; Volvo, BMW, Jaguar, Honda, etc. have not been building those autoplants all over our landscape out of charity. 

by 'son' I don't mean it to be condescending. It just means I think of you as a red headed step child (I'm not sure if that phrase is regional or not). 

In Wisconsin that phrase refers to the child who you keep locked in the closet, scalp them, then rape them after sticking squirrels up their rectum. That child may or may not be yours O_O

BTW: I'm kidding. Mostly. 

raven is insecure and gets jealous of its mappers. That's why the office is way out on the tundra. When you get there, they give a speech about how Raven "has no guards... no fences... no life-sign sensors... only a transporter scrambling field"