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"Toxic Quake Community" Amnesty And Apology Thread.
Warning: This is a positive resolution / solution thread, not a beef thread. You wanna beef, go elsewhere.

It has come to my attention that there are occasional accusations of the Quake community having some negative social aspects. Indeed in the words of rebb (compiler coder) in 2018:

I have known the Quake community for a very long time as one of the most toxic and narcissistic creative communities.
For a moment in time things appeared to have improved, but it turned out to be little more than naive wishful thinking.

Between all it's newfound glory, hyperdetailed maps and "god mappers" still sits the same deep prideful arrogance and highly toxic nature that has most likely been there since the very beginning.
It is a cold and self-obsessed place.

Strong words (which I personally entirely disagree with as someone who has been in the scene from Day 1, both as a player AND contributor). Unfortunately he doesn't specify what actually happened nor who he is referring to. And it's hard to have sympathy without actually understanding what's going on, and it's hard to make progress from that without having some clarity and openness.

IF there is any such "toxicity" in the Quake scene, then I think it needs to be made explicit what the problems are, who has been "toxic", and whether such behaviour is explicable, redeemable, or even simply a misunderstanding of casual behaviour, as per the wise words of Kinn (sometime mapper):

ok, here it goes - there is a lot of really obvious playful pisstaking in this community which is good.
as a man of this sceptred isle, a man of rosy-cheeked chappery and good-humoured banter, I welcome the very obvious joking around and tomfoolery
but perhaps a lot of people don't "get it" - perhaps it's down to cultural differences, or perhaps some even are "on the spectrum" as it were, and struggle to differentiate a malicious comment from an obvious mickey-take


This is not to start arguments or flame wars. This is to CLEAR THOSE UP by explaining what is going on discussing calmly, apologising if needed. There's no point moaning about toxicity and not trying to sort it out, so...
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Take It To The Stasi 
Thank god otp has no moderation power in this community, otherwise he'd likely be the only person left posting.
You've been trying to get me banned/kicked out for months with screencaps and quotes of my offences. That it hasn't worked and people don't give a fuck about anything you say is quite the comfy feeling. 
Need Something To Get Off Your Chest Drew? 
If anyone notices people raising concerns in other areas, i.e. reddit etc, please direct them to this thread so stuff can be cleared up. Thanks. 
It's Quite A Funny 
on one hand
eddie the shambler welcomes the newbies with a shittalking, posting and asking for a pooping vids, and he believes it's ok (tf discord)

on the other hand
shitposting spy

and after all that two faced son of a gun is asking for retribution for spy 
Just Lock This Thread Already 
pointless and off topic 
I Don't Think So. 
Some very useful contributions and discussions. Just because one perma-troll is abusing it like he does to the rest of func doesn't negate the purpose. 
You've already demonstrated that you go on semi-regular spamming sprees that contribute nothing to the forum other than filling it up with meaningless shitposts. If you wish to make a serious point then form a clear coherent argument and post just that without the tirade of abuse. Otherwise you will keep being treated the same as any other spammer. 
Fair Enough 
So explain something for me Shambler: why does this thread exist?

You stated in the OP: It has come to my attention that there are occasional accusations of the Quake community having some negative social aspects. and then went on to quote a year old post.

So what's the real point? Who's got you so obsessed with this topic? Can't be Rebb. Did someone go on the offensive and start tearing down func in public?

I don't see anything like that at all. Maybe an offhand comment in a podcast or on Discord? Getting warmer? Where and when was the word toxic used? I certainly don't recall reading it anywhere?

You've asked for specifics now I am asking you
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