You should try to implement the last part regardless of marksurfaces. I say that because CDA (I think) exceeded the value, and the map didn't crash with FitzQuake. I suspect it depends mainly how the map is occluded, and so how the engine have to render the poly faces ingame...
It's up to you ;) 

...it's ended up 32701, yaaaaay!!! But you are right, I could've pushed 500 to 600 over the limit without a problem for FQ. I have confidence in my occlusion skllls, but I really do like to stay within the limits so if bug hunting is required I at least know where not to look. As to the bit I had to lop off it was basically a corridor (albeit a very heavily detailed one) so there's no huge loss. I get to keep the machine "models" for use as prefabs in the next level.

Expect a beta test request soon big boy! 

ffs! 

OK, don't hesitate to send me your stuff when ready, I'd be happy to help you for beta testing ;) 

Its so Exciting!!! 

http://puzzlet.org/personal/wiki.php/KnockKnock/SoThisGuy 

 

... a hod's as good as a sink to a blind Norse

and

...huts old naval huts, cavalry take them and they turn 'em into chopped bits

and

...if you were the only gull in the world and I was the only bouy

But the stories are far too long to explain, so just guffaw at the appropriate punch line. 

http://gizmodo.com/349509/lego-brick-timeline-50-years-of-building-frenzy-and-curiosities 

...any chance of an explanation for #13447 

...new levels coming out, Quoth2 etc, especially really big levels that rub up against Q1 engine limits, makes my nipples hard!! :D 

.. pervert :P 

In an episode set of (say) three maps, would you as players (not mappers) expect to carry all of your weapons from map to map, or would you be happy to start each map with the default weapons, or would you expect to lose maybe one or two weapons and keep one or two? 

Well, if the maps are intented to be followed (like Five Rivers Land maps), you should not loose your weapons in between.
If the maps are not "linked" directly, and if you want them to be played separately, you must consider the maps as "standalone" maps, and then start all of them with default weapon...
Well, actually it depends on what the mapper wanted to do ... my 2 cents ;) 

As long as it is clearly noticable at each map start I'd say you can do what you want. Just give a message like "You lost your rocket launcher stumbling on the level exit, duh" or something. 

Prefer to keep them and have a weapon progression, even if its not the standard weak -> strong that everyone expects. I mean getting the GL out of sequence and getting the RL in the final map, for example.

Losing weapons when not returning to a hub feels strange, especially when moving in a linear level progression. I remember in HL2 being pissed off at the confiscation chamber crap. Felt like a conceited way to show off the physics a bit more but only in the final stages of the game.

IMHO SSG, NG, GL leaves enough open gameplay strings to follow with the other weapons coming later and not being dropped. The advantages of the others are just more power, apart from the range of the RL - which I guess is why you're asking.

My 2 pence. 

"You lost your rocket launcher stumbling on the level exit, duh"
lol

i think this type of thing is entirely to the mapper's discretion. what will provide the better gameplay? what way makes it more fun? etc etc 

Mike, if I was in some unknown hell dimension being ported to who knows where my grip on the fire power would be tighter than a fish's arsehole. Losing some for anything other than a very plausible reason would certainly be annoying. I think ijed makes some good points.

Ricky, careful you'll put someone's eye out. And just for the record, this level takes up less than one eighth of the available build volumn and has (at this stage) less than 70 enemy on hard.

Bwahahahaha! 

Don't even think about releasing!

(Still, if you need overly picky beside-the-point comments, you know where to ask..) 

but with 100% marksurfaces?

As in its horrendously detailed and full of higher end enemies?

OR WHAT MAN!!??!?

(just bust a bloodvessel..) 

If you can do it, what I quite like is for the maps to be designed that you keep your weapons for the normal level of challenge, but also for them to include a couple of weapons so that you can play them individually at a harder level.

The Id maps are quite good for this, obviously they are consecutive but many of them you can jump in, grab a NG and RL (or whatever's on that map) and have enough to play with. 

When playing levels for the sake of recording demos, it pisses me of when you start a map and there are no low end weapons and l00ds of ammo for them!!
Why not replace one of those large boxes of shells with an actual SSG or a box of nails with a NG......

Having said that, if a weapon ditch is for a reason, then I agree with what necros said in that it's entirely up to the mapper! 

My 2 cents ...

It's Quake. Do whatever feels fun. 

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In an episode set of (say) three maps, would you as players (not mappers) expect to carry all of your weapons from map to map, or would you be happy to start each map with the default weapons, or would you expect to lose maybe one or two weapons and keep one or two?

Normally, expect to keep them, like in id levels.

Having said that, I like if the mapper gives me the option to play each map individually, i.e. put a nailgun or SSG somewhere in the first third of the map, and maybe a GL in a later secret. Or whatever I need to deal with the given monsters; if the map is full of Death Lords, I'd like a PG or an RL plz even if I started from scratch. Remember Doom, there was always a shotgun near the start of the level, it would either just sit there or someone would drop it.

You can get away with it, removing weapons I mean. Both TombRaider 1 and 2 did this, the former very late in the game, the latter a bit earlier. I fondly remember the part where Lara gets captured on the oil rig or whatever it is. She has no weapons, she must do some crate pushing, climbing, switch pressing and escaping through a timed door, and then an alarm goes off. A few thugs come running for her, which she must dodge past and hide away for a bit until she finds most of her stuff again, in the crew quarters I think. It's the same level where she goes diving (The Deep? 40 Fathoms?) in TR2. One of my all-time favourite games.

She gets the weapons back quickly, though.

Lara can do more than Quakeguy, too, like pushing crates, climbing and a pile of other stuff :-/ and the level design is often more creative, probably as a result of this. Like the level which is upside down (sunken ship). More traps, too. Quakeguy can practically only shoot, so once his weapons are gone, it gets a little boring. OK he can bunnyhop, so there. *g*