I ment 15th anniversaty. Moders fix please. 

Latest version from here?: https://tomeofpreach.wordpress.com/quoth/

Right? 

 

 

i got them knavish jam sweats
good luck - looking forward to jam maps with ~20 secrets! 

I'm getting somewhat tired of the overused knave set and gameplay-wise, I would've preferred AD instead of Quoth, but a new jam is still cool news and I totally get the anniversary thing. Here's hoping that there'll be some originality in the architecture instead of more of the samey-samey infinite library stuff that often goes with this texture set. 

* Fit into the limits of the original BSP format

Certain r_speeds? 

Nice, I was starting to wonder how long we would have to wait until someone complained about the jam. Glad to see it didn't take long. 

 

https://quakewiki.org/wiki/Engine_Limits#BSP 

Cheers. Some of those headings are red on the Wiki. But I assume I can track this stuff in BSPinfo. 

Jeez... Will any comment ever not be turned into a complaint/controversy by you guys? 

Tho bsp2 maps won't be refused any way 

Love the anniversary idea since major contributions do alter the trajectory/evolution of later stuff. We do have some historical distance to Contract Revoked now, and it's been very influential. If it's over-used it's because it's inspired a lot of mappers with a theme that draws on Quake's original ideas very effectively. I think that also creates the challenge for new contributors to do something new with the theme and that is always interesting. Some of the most creative stuff comes out of attempts to avoid being boxed in so to speak. 

What did you expect whining about the theme when everyone else is more than happy with it? You're literally the only one complaining about it and you haven't even said whether you're entering or not. You not liking Knave's tropes won't prevent any of the participants from making a map for the jam.

Oh and I don't agree on the notion that it's overused. 

Don't complain, go map! 

I can never get tired of knave and runic maps.

Tronyn: would you take part in this map jam? 

Tho bsp2 maps won't be refused any way

Not interested in using BSP2 but if we are bound to sticking with Protocol 666 (which allow mostly bigger limits) then why are we trying to stick to the original BSP? Honest question to try and understand the reasoning and tech side of this.

The Knave theme will be new to me. I have never played Quoth or the maps mentioned. I do recall a couple of Daz's YouTube playthroughs featured it as did AD. So it's new to me! ;)