#16 posted by Drew
on 2012/05/08 00:25:23
since I am a good person. Found the megahealth - by accident. I feel how every other person who plays this will: It is an exceptionally classy and well organized piece of work. Looking forward to whatever you find time to finish next!
Demo in Quakespasm
#17 posted by Drew
on 2012/05/08 01:03:47
found all 4 secrets!
Also realized I was being a dumbass in the previous demo, trying to figure out how the grate I came out of opened for 100 hours.
#18 posted by ijed
on 2012/05/08 01:08:02
I did a DM version for one of our demos, and got heavily stuck on the 'big room' thing - did you hit the same problem?
Play was fun, if sometimes harsh - nails before belltower would have helped.
A lot nicer on the eyes than my version.
Neat and compact.
My secret-fu was well off, didn't get any on first run.
#19 posted by Barnak
on 2012/05/08 04:28:17
Guys, try playing this -nice- map on nightmare skill, using the DMSP mod (the DMSP mod adds an ivasion of about 100 random monsters on any map. This is a must-have mod !). Simply hilarious and twisted. Turn ON the God mode, though !
I've found that secret reversed american mc'gee head room. Funny, but wtf !?
#20 posted by than
on 2012/05/08 06:05:11
Thanks for the comments. Glad you guys like the map.
metl: I thought players would generally kill one or two of the ogres before the vore appears, but I don't have any problems with using them in that way :) By the way, the ogres can throw a grenade across the bridge, and often it will bounce of the bridge directly through the window of the opposite tower. That was an awesome fluke.
ijed: I never really thought of it as a big room, more a space with sub-spaces inside (the building, the small corner towers, the pipes) and tried to think of a layout that would fit inside and make sense. I had a basic plan of the layout before I started it, and this was refined as I went in order to get more gameplay time out of the map without any large expansions. I find these dm conversions much easier than working from scratch, since you have a basic layout and can fly around it in noclip mode and imagine a layout.
..surely A Nice Map But
#21 posted by dehlor on 2012/05/08 13:00:32
it's too reminiscent of that "GloomKeep" from
original id maps.. really not my cup of tea
howewer any new quake map is a welcome one feeding my videogamer hunger
#22 posted by RickyT33
on 2012/05/08 16:24:04
it's too reminiscent of that "GloomKeep" from
original id maps.. really not my cup of tea
I assumed that was Than's intention.....
#23 posted by Vondur
on 2012/05/08 21:23:55
nice little map! little maps are the future because they're getting finished! ;>
#24 posted by Orbs on 2012/05/09 00:12:38
first soem casual playdied 2x, then dida run in 0:57 basic trick is the endporter is only protected from below didnt browse for secrets only found rl so might be better routes
#25 posted by Drew
on 2012/05/09 00:43:24
#26 posted by necros
on 2012/05/09 00:45:52
I really enjoy modern takes on the original textures. This one is done extremely well.
#27 posted by than
on 2012/05/09 01:24:03
the trigger that teleports you to the bottom is not actually active until you press the gold key switch, so there might be some other tricks that can be done if you can get up there quick enough. However, there isn't much armour, so I guess getting up alive without taking the wind tunnel is probably impossible.
I Tend To
#28 posted by ijed
on 2012/05/09 14:22:34
Puddle map, which is why the box got me stuck.
As in mine art flat and spread out in every direction until I'm out of goo to pour.
Even the remakes have tended to stretch and crack to fit all the extras in.
e3m2 was one of the best, since it seems the second half was basically missing many areas, so it was fun including those.
Subdividing a single space to make a level needs more discipline than I'm used to working with. Will have to give the style another go.
#29 posted by than
on 2012/05/09 16:59:06
I just watched the demos with the exception of Drew's, since it wouldn't play in FitzQuake or Quakespasm.
1. Sorry to everybody who got smashed at the end. Negke told me to tone that down and make the armour easier to grab... I just thought maybe people would grab the armour first. I should have done what Negke suggested and made that trigger smaller.
2.The only secret anybody found was the rocket launcher, and even that some people looked right at before moving on. I have a suspicion that my monitor/Quake is much brighter than everybody else's, because I can easily spot the switch to the MH secret (I think spy stood on it twice by accident but didn't notice.) I was also surprised that nobody spotted the yellow armour secret, since all the other metal huts outside had shit in them. I really thought the secrets were all fairly easy to spot :/
3. Many players were just using all their nails on weaker enemies instead of keeping a few spare for when a bigger enemy comes along, which forced them down to sg. Maybe I should have put the ssg in a bit earlier? I only did it because there was a discussion about weapon progression :)
4. voodoochopsticks did some weird shit at the end. He got the gold key but then tried to rocket jump through the roof slipgate. However, he didn't quite reach the changelevel trigger but did trigger the final encounter without actually getting teleported to it. This meant that when he did get teleported, he was surrounded by Shamblers. Somehow he was one of the few that made it. Well done!
Thanks very much for the demos!
#30 posted by DaZ
on 2012/05/09 17:15:30
I found it interesting that you got it nearer the end of the map. It reminded me of when Barney gave you a crowbar near the end of Episode 1 :D
I didn't dislike it, it's just that there were a few situations where I was forced to "shotgun snipe" which I hate doing.
On my first playthrough I got 0/4 secrets heh, and the MH secret was in fact the hardest to find for me. I noticed that
when you kill the vore that tele's in to the highest point on the map (above the windpipe) that it activates one of buttons required to access the nightmare secret. Was this intentional? it was probably splash damage from the rockets hitting the button but it felt a bit weird.
**********ENDING of spoilers**********
Hard was fairly hard, which I liked, had a few butt-clenching moments :) Perhaps a few too many Shamblers for my liking.
I found the penis, and the lava logo, win! :D
#31 posted by than
on 2012/05/09 17:15:47
I just tried to record a 100% nightmare demo but died at the end.
#32 posted by erc
on 2012/05/09 17:48:58
I haven't had any deathmatch experience on dm7 (in fact I don't even know what it looks like) so I can't comment on how this one compares to the original, but as a stand-alone map, I think it feels highly moody and plays well in singleplayer. I love the maps that revolve around conquering a single structure as this concept strengtens the feel of progression. Your eye for detailing and ingenious weapon / monster placement makes Geophobia a winner even though its a tad on the shorter side.
Congratulations. Looking forward to your upcoming remixes.
skill 2 : 16 minutes
88 / 88 kills : 2 / 4 secrets
makes Geophobia a winner even though its a tad on the shorter side
Your wording suggests the map is good despite being shorter, rather than said shortness simply being a quality of the map :/
I Would Have Loved If The Map Were Twice As Long
#34 posted by Drew
on 2012/05/09 22:11:04
Though not 3x etc
I like it for what it is, but still.
my demo is in quakespasm... I don't know why it doesn't work.
#35 posted by anonymous user on 2012/05/10 04:28:16
#36 posted by DaZ
on 2012/05/10 16:12:31
#37 posted by Shambler
on 2012/05/10 20:47:57
Great map great style. Can't be a critcism surely.
Well, F**k Me...
...Here's my offering:
skill 1, 2/4 secrets, 27-some minutes.
Boring as hell(the video, I mean). Having not played seriously Quake for some 6 months took its toll.
Plus, the video quality is uber crappy, bear with me, first attempt to post something on the Tube. First attempt at using Screenflow, too.
I'm trying to re upload the same with better quality.
"First run through THAN's dm7rmx. Skill 1. Took a lot longer to complete than expected. My Quake chops definitely need revamping... To think that I chose skill 1 to make quick work of the thingie...
All in all, a really nice offering from Than. Great Quakeness going on here. Architecture is spot on. Nothing is overdone, good scale and detailing. I loved the bulkiness...
Gamelay wise, RL is a bit of overkill, would have preferred a little more nails and maybe an earlier DS, but that's just me... Next to final fight easier than expected, lots of cover and very easy infighting. A vore spawning in after the second shambler would have fit right in: limited space and not so easy use of RL may have resulted in some nice DS dancing. Keep them coming Than, maybe next time I'll even finish the map in a reasonable time..."
#39 posted by megaman
on 2012/05/11 21:59:08
found the rl and the ya :/
#40 posted by negke
on 2012/05/12 11:00:07
There are a few things to keep in mind if you want to make your maps compatible to DMSP:
correct positioning of deathmatch starts and teleporter destinations to make sure monsters with big bounding boxes don't spawn partially inside a wall or end up in an infinite teleporter loop. Most importantly, however, is proper spawnflagging. DMSP was originally meant for deathmatch-only maps, and in order to use it with SP maps (that have DM setttings), all non-SP entities, the monsters in particular, have to be set not to appear, so the mod can be played as intended on DM mode. Otherwise they will spawn normally beside the DMSP monsters, including those inside teleporter closets, which makes it impossible to finish the match.
Sadly, this is something that even negke didn't do in most maps...