 JPL
#6595 posted by RickyT33 on 2010/03/04 10:46:55
Nice shots - the map looks very evil and hellish.
Possibly the smoothest arch in Quake 1 eva?
As for the textures, well the marble pillar texture looks no worse than the texture you have used for the walls.
I think you could spend a bit of time experimenting with some nicer textures. Or touch up the ones yu are using.
As for the lighting - well I dont think you should use any more minlight - add some very low level light entities with a low (>1) wait value near to any totally black areas which you want to be lighter. Remove all minlight from the map. Thats what I would do.
To be fair the textures I am using are ported Quake 2 textures and I am well aware that I will have to re-touch them all before I can say that they look good.
Sock - you rock. Very realistic architecture.
Just a shame its not Q1SP :P
 Thanks !!
#6596 posted by JPL on 2010/03/04 12:43:08
@negke & RickyT23: I already tried to not use minlight, but the map becomes really really dark.. minlinght value is set to 20 if I remember well, so maybe the fact I increased brightness and contrast of the pictures makes this "washing-out" effect.. though.. Actually ingame it is better (visually speaking) ;)
@Zwiffle & generic: It is intentional if it looks "drab" (I would have said gloomy).. as it is a CDA sequel, and that the map is supposed to take place in Hell, it has to be drab/gloomy.. Also I guess you are right: you played too much Mirror's edge ;)
@Tronyn: You are an "anti-negke" in term of minlight setting :P Seriously, the visual effect I want to achieve is a really a doom-ish/gloomy/dark-ish/evil-ish level... with a really oppressive and scary ambience.. like it I suppose it is in Hell (just missing people suffering here and there) :P
@sock: I understand you point... and the skybox is particularly dark (I am using Doom3's Hell Guardian skybox)... Nevertheless at its bottom, there is a kind of burning lava that is awesome...
@Shambler: Thanks for the support ;)
So to let you know (if didn't have found it by yourself), textures comes 99% from DKT3 and Doom3 converted texture set.
So, thanks a lot for the comments, I'll try to adjust minlight and light value to something nicer... also, I didn't enabled the "extra" process for light tool.. that may explain the lightning does not look as good as you are expecting it... anyway, thanks a lot for the comments ;)
 Sock
#6597 posted by nitin on 2010/03/04 13:03:32
beautiful!
and if anyone finds those images too dark, their monitor is not calibrated right.
 Jpl
#6598 posted by nitin on 2010/03/04 13:04:32
shots 2 and 3 are nice. shot 1 feels a bit bland.
 Tronyn
#6599 posted by ijed on 2010/03/04 13:16:40
It's supposed to be marble I think, but without being able to look glossy it loses the intention some.
 JPL
#6600 posted by ijed on 2010/03/04 13:22:15
I'd Make the pillars a lighter colour than the walls - not white, it should still look gritty. I'd also make them flush to the walls, cos pillars are never placed that close without being attached.
Can tell the contrast of the image has been modified - makes it difficult to make comments, especially since you're seeing a different version from everyone here.
Final thing - why does the arch have so many brushes? Is it mdl? Personally I'd use the faces on (you guessed it) the pillars. Just because they're closer to the eye line - players don't look up constantly.
 :P
#6601 posted by ijed on 2010/03/04 13:25:11
Sorry, I was talking crap - I had my monitor gamma set high. Reset now, and the shots look ok for lighting.
Though maybe delay 5 would help provide softer edges.
Have you tried r_lightmap 1 ?
 Jpl
#6602 posted by negke on 2010/03/04 13:30:20
Use low-value light entities instead. This will make the map less dark while at the same time making the dim areas not look as washed out, because there'll be very subtle variations in contrast. It's more work, but it'll pay off. Don't be afraid of dark corners.
I agree there's something odd about the marble texture. If you keep it, make sure it's properly aligned on each face.
 Jpl
#6603 posted by Shambler on 2010/03/04 13:45:42
Don't be afraid of dark corners.
With spawn hiding in them...
#6604 posted by Spirit on 2010/03/04 14:03:33
and Shambler...
 And Willem
#6605 posted by Drew on 2010/03/04 22:27:34
looking at your crotch.
I think the shots look great JPL - I really like the lava. definitely agree about it needing to be darker though - and I have pretty mixed emotions regarding the pillars.
 Well...
#6606 posted by JPL on 2010/03/05 11:57:40
... I reused same texture set I used in CDA for sequel consistency reasons (hence walls and pillar textures choice)... Now I have to test different lightning settings (without minlight first) in order to see whether it looks better or not... and I'll try to align the pillar textures (I think it is possible with Quark using a tagged face and the "around pillar" function... let's make a try)
And I take notes abour spawn hidden in dark corners... sounds interesting in term of insecurity feeling >D
OK, so thanks a lot for the comments: you rock !
 #6604 - Classic Quake Trap
#6607 posted by negke on 2010/03/05 12:10:45
"classname" "item_soap"
"target" "Shambler"
 Hah
#6608 posted by ijed on 2010/03/05 12:42:23
 Sunlight 1 And 2...
#6609 posted by generic on 2010/03/05 14:02:34
Might help in open areas, but you will have to be more creative indoors ;)
 LOL.
#6610 posted by Shambler on 2010/03/05 17:17:22
Your new map, negke??
 ^
#6611 posted by negke on 2010/03/05 20:03:05
 LOL.
#6612 posted by Shambler on 2010/03/05 20:37:13
You are demented, you know that??
 ROFL!!!!
#6613 posted by DaZ on 2010/03/06 14:00:43
That is the best thing I have ever played.
 Hahaha
awesome
 Yo Dawg
#6616 posted by kaz on 2010/03/12 22:20:03
 Yo Dawg
#6617 posted by Zwiffle on 2010/03/12 22:23:30
I heard you like beta testin' so I put a beta in yo beta so you can test while you test.
Sorry.
 Check It
#6618 posted by meTch on 2010/03/14 23:02:18
 Hmm
#6619 posted by DaZ on 2010/03/14 23:55:08
I would seriously reconsider that green lighting / fog, it overpowers everything else in the map.
I've never played the mod, so no idea if the layout is good or not, sorry!
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