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So with the film and music threads still going and being discussed... why don't we get some discussion going on something on topic to the board? What other games are you playing now?
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Agreed Shambler 
From that old video it seems to be too slow for a shooter, and not scary enough for horror. It has the pacing of an adventure game, didn't see much in the way of puzzles though.

I guess they had a lot of time, the gameplay could be better now? 
Aye 
2 years ago, they're back with a non-gameplay trailer, and the pre-alpha got a justifiably luke-warm response so that could be the time and motivation to progress a lot with it... 
 
i need some good mp that doesn't flood me with points, bonuses, coins, xp, exp, crap, shit 
Doom Eternal 
tldr: It's fun, but. Also, go for HMP on your first run.

As expected, it has the same linear arena gameplay as the previous one, but it feels faster and more consistent at that. Doomguy turned trapeze artist Popeye lumberjack. I didn't mind the glory kill and chainsaw pinata system this time and it all works together smoothly.
Visually pretty cool unless QC style puts you off. The levels look good, and some great setpieces and blending of styles e.g. techno cathedrals. All a bit random though, for better or worse.
Story is crap of course - not that anyone cares. My hot take, though: in a game like this (especially with its cutscenes and color-coding), if you need a radio voice giving directions or blathering exposition, it's flawed design.

My main issue with the game is that it seems they packed too much stuff in for the player to handle on top of the combat, which gets quite distracting, at least on the first playtrough.
There's eight standard weapons, each of which have two alternative firemodes (weapon mods) which you can unlock. Then there's weapon points acquired through combat to upgrade each of these mods; and once fully upgraded there's an another bonus upgrade to be unlocked through grinding. Then there are tokens to be found for upgrading your suit for some useful and some completely irrelevant features. There are crystals to upgrade max health, armor and ammo. And finally some secret extra encounters to unlock yet another weapon which you'll then end up never using. Oh, and at some point you get a sword too.
All the weapons, mods and upgrades come in handy in certain situations, but they overlap, and it feels like there's not enough game for each of them. Perhaps it's more about individual playstyle? Still, a less-is-more approach would have been more beneficial imho.

I played on UV, because I thought I was a proper badass (and of course for reasons of dickwaving. *flip* *flap* slapping it across Lun's cheeks!). Got my ass kicked countless times and, well, it is what I signed up for after all. Though, despite some bullshit situations, eventually I realized it mostly was because I was trying too hard to unlock all the stuff and get the challenges - which the game, at least on the harder difficulties, kind of requires. However, this works to prevent the player to get into (or stay in) the "groove" and flow of the game, so to speak. Surely enough, when I replayed some sections without caring for any performance or exploration, I found that I had an easier time and enjoyed it much more. Started a limited lives run (on HMP) after completing the game and suddenly it's very much the mindless slaughter fun I was looking for. 
Negke 
I haven’t played Eternal yet but all of the upgrade systems you described were also in the previous Doom, right? When I played that game I started out thinking it was a bunch of unnecessary complexity but by the second half I was familiar enough with the core mechanics that I appreciated a new thing to pay attention to, and started actually using the weapon fire modes when they tactically made sense.

I remember the original being a mix of linear levels and hub based levels, and the hub based ones, like Foundry, were some of my favorite. Sounds like from your review they are all linear this time. Is that correct? 
#10582 
This time around there are just more upgrades in Eternal, or at least it does feel like too much.

There were no hub areas in DOOM2016, it was all just linear missions.

Although Eternal also has linear progression, it does however have a hub "HQ" area, which is some floating fortress in space - doom guy/slayer now hangs out there. Has demonic guitars hanging on the wall, collectible toys on shelves, PC that can run original Doom games, stack of video games, books and magazines. 
Yeah He's Spot On 
I was relieved when I finished, as it was a lot of juggling, which wasn't always as streamlined or flowy feeling as the previous game often was. There were certainly huge improvements also - the game design is more epic and varied in a way I generally enjoyed. But all that variation comes with some less than successful and sometimes quite extraneous feeling elements.
The story blows, too much going on there as well. The reboot handled the storyline much more gracefully and integrated it into gameplay in a way that made more and more sense as the game progressed - I was actually fairly impressed with that element of DOOM. And it left more to the imagination, which is almost always better. Like Lovecraft mythos, or many other following horror universes, it is better when there's a good amount left merely hinted at instead of exhaustingly detailed documented and catalogued. 
Modern Games 
...seem to have this obsession with upgrade points and pointlessly customizable stuff. Doom 2016, while a fun game, had way too many types of upgrade currency to keep track of IMO, and Doom Eternal's upgrade/customization systems seem to be even worse. I can't think of a better way of making a Doom game "un-Doom-like" than over-complicating it by throwing in a bunch of useless modern mechanics like that. It's rather tiring, and sometimes I just want to kill monsters and explore hellish levels. That's why I've been playing a lot of Quake 1 maps lately. 
Yup 
> I can't think of a better way of making a Doom game "un-Doom-like"

that, and also cosmetics and "man cave" area, because kids like it nowadays!! 
 
> seem to have this obsession with upgrade points and pointlessly customizable stuff

Dopamine. There are a few studies on how "checking things off a list" and similar behavior can release dopamine and therefore get you hooked into the action. Same for customization. That's why so many modern games put that crap in: it works for a large percentage of their target audience. And if their target audience is bigger, the more generic and bland those systems are.

Sad, but there's a reason to it. 
Metl 
Upon revisiting Doom 2016, it is indeed pretty much the same. Though I remembered it felt more natural there in comparison. Maybe because you get weapon upgrade points by discovering secrets in general, and the collecibles and suit points are less obviously gamey inside the levels. 
Gears Tictacs 
The good news is: It's a Gears turn-based strategy game. The bad news is: It's a Gears turn-based strategy game.

What you get is an almost adequate re-skinned XCom, in which good graphics, smooth functionality and useful skills barely compensate for repetitive missions, constant map re-usage and occasional but insomnia-curing boss combats.

All of this is wrapped up in the classic Gears aesthetic which was bad enough to make GOW an instant uninstall & refund failure and has hardly improved with this - pre-teen fantasy wooden cliche meatheads fighting slightly differently textured wooden cliche meatheads. Whereas, say, MYZ had instantly endearing characters, WH40K mechanicus had fresh and interesting races, and BTech had goddamn battlemechs, the characters in this were half-heartedly loathable straight away and this improved only marginally with the distant perspective and acquiring helmets to cover their moronic visages. You can't polish a turd and serving that turd in a different format is scarcely better.

If you've played all the vastly superior TBS games in the last few years and want yet more generic TBS to pass the time, this may well serve that purpose (as it did for me, with a lot of very casual hours in). If you've played all the Gears games and want yet more, this will serve as a timely remind to book your lobotomy appointment. 
 
constant map re-usage

Nice one Daz. 
 
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Savour that sweet sweet coming from EGS beta-testing to proper Steam release DISCOUNT. Gotta love it. The devs get EVEN LESS from your purchase cos they fucked around putting it on EGS exclusive. 
12 Hours To Go 
Favourite PArt Of Game So Far 
When a mole falls in spikes. 
Poor Mole 
In other news, Control confirmed as GOTY by both Vondur and I. 
No 
The moles are absolute bastards.

Do not pity them. 
Ziggurat 2 
Ziggurat 2 goes into Early Access in a few days. You should be able to watch someone streaming it on Twitch soon after to see how it plays (that's my plan). And you can check the recent tweets from @Milkstone for some teasers.

https://twitter.com/Milkstone
http://www.milkstonestudios.com/

As a reminder, Ziggurat came out in 2014 or so and is a pretty neat indie rogue-style FPS game with magic. It made up for lackluster procedurally generated levels with plenty of good ideas and interesting weapons & powers, so I'm interested to see what they're doing for the sequel. Hopefully better level designs are in the works. 
That's The Torchlight Of FPSes Then 
Very cutesy and cartoony and kid-friendly, but also looks pretty harmonious and cool settings / backdrops.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1_iUAA8N6kU 
 
I cast Graphicus Genericus! 
 
Some parts of it make me think about if setpieces were abused to make the levels or if it was done with something like Doom4's snapmap. 
Kinn Remind Me Again... 
Which recent FPSes have a cartoon fantasy graphical style to them?? 
SC0RN 14minutes Ultra-slow Console Gameplay At FOV55 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6grwdMemV1o thanks to Vondur for posting it on discord. 
 
Watch the unsettling and horrifying results in this exclusive 13-minute gameplay video.

I am unsettled and horrified by how boring that game looks. 
 
This is awesome. Loving the slow pacing and high weirdness factor. Seems like a game that would take forever to make. 
Well. 
On the plus side it is definitely looking more like a game, and the graphics are 11/10.

On the other hand, the FOV55 and perma-walk mode look alarmingly sluggish, and it still seems to be just saying BUY THIS GAME BECUZ GIGER (or that other artist dude I forget) and WEIRDO BIOMECHANICAL PORN HERP DERP.

Would like to see if it can make it more intringuing than the initial thematic impact, and carry that over a whole game and maintain interest. 
Good 
to see what it is about, as till now seemed more like an interactive movie and now the gameplay feels like it is along the lines of the one in the first three games in the Alone in the Dark series.
The implementation of ideas for gameplay as nice, even if the ideas themselves are not novel. What i miss is that the theme of the level now feels more conventional, and a faster release as at this pace reminds me of those game that took too long and ended up being disappointing. 
Scorn 
Yeah, this reinforces my reaction to the previous videos.

+ Great looking environments. (though I kind of wish the lighting was more dramatic and spookier)

- Looks too slow to be a shooter, not scary enough to be horror, and puzzles not interesting enough to be an adventure game. 
On The Subject Of Games Trying To Rely Entirely In A Particular Theme. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgHj3a-CkBM

Succubus prologue walkthrough. Guaranteed work-safe, family-friendly, and suitable for good honest Christian viewing everywhere. 
Scorn 
the first demo showed serious problems in level design: samey looking corridors that are hard to figure out which one you have already visited and which one you haven't explored yet. Also, I didn't manage to finish the demo because I had no idea what I had to do to progress. That was ~2 years ago and I hope it gets better. The visuals are stunning for sure. 
In Other News. 
https://store.steampowered.com/app/578650/The_Outer_Worlds/

The Outer Worlds is out on Steam, with that sweet sweet egs-exclusive-paid-beta-test discount after a year. 
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